Steve and Colleen talk with Tom and Karen Friedrichs of Broom Tree Landing, a ministry that offers no-cost retreat, coaching, and spiritual direction to pastors and ministry leaders who are tired, hurting, or on the edge of burnout. They share their own story of pastoral exhaustion, how God accelerated their “retirement dream” into a right now calling, and several powerful provision stories — including God funding someone’s retreat from another country.

You’ll hear:

• Why healthy churches need healthy leaders

• Signs of burnout pastors often ignore

• Why availability is the real ministry

• How God provides when you finally say “yes”

Connect with Broom Tree Landing: https://www.broomtreelanding.org/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

06:58 The Importance of Healthy Ministries

13:52 Personal Journeys and Call to Ministry

20:56 Provision and Trust in God

27:37 Creating a Safe Space for Leaders

29:19 Understanding Burnout in Ministry

33:43 The Importance of Rest and Retreat

38:33 Provision Stories: Miracles in Ministry

43:23 The Power of Availability and Presence

48:07 Encouragement for Those Struggling

51:17 Establishing Healthy Rhythms in Life

Steve sits down with author and leadership coach Preston Poore to discuss his new book How Is Greater Than What. Together they unpack the overlooked “how” of leadership—why character, integrity, and faith matter more than performance.

Hear Preston’s vulnerable stories from his years at Coca-Cola, how he learned to lead with heart, and why our identity in Christ defines every “how” in life and leadership.

🎧 Listen. Reflect. Lead differently.

Chapters

00:00 The Fundamentals of Identity and Purpose

03:06 Exploring Leadership and Character

05:59 The Importance of Integrity in Leadership

09:09 Understanding the 'How' in Leadership

11:53 The Role of Dignity and Respect in Leadership

14:57 Transformational Leadership Through Relationships

24:54 The Turning Point in Leadership

30:44 Identifying Leadership Traps

33:00 The Journey of Personal Development

39:22 Encouragement for Young Leaders

42:31 Faith and Leadership: The Power of Love

“Helper” in Genesis 2:18 isn’t a downgrade—it’s ezer kenegdo: a powerful ally corresponding to. Steve & Colleen explore God’s original design, how sin distorted it, and how Jesus restores mutuality (Gal 3:28). Practical for marriage, ministry, friendships, and singles—plus a Zechariah 2:5 prayer of protection and presence.

Here's the link to prayer of protection: https://embracingbrokenness.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/A-Wall-of-Fire-Around-Us-Crafted-Prayer-Zechariah-2-5.pdf

Chapters

0:00 – Opening: generational context & show intro

1:42 – Welcome back; why Genesis; episode title set-up

3:52 – Prayer of protection (Zechariah 2:5)

5:19 – Why pray aloud; prison context; PDF mention

7:26 – Genesis 2:18 read; intro to ezer kenegdo

9:45 – “Helper” and identity: Colleen’s story

12:03 – God as ezer (rescuer/ally)

13:07 – Psalm 33:20 (ESV) — “he is our help and our shield”

14:30 – Kenegdo = corresponding/face-to-face; headship/submission clarified

15:17 – Misuse of “submission”; weight of responsibility on the head

17:11 – The Fall’s fracture (Genesis 3:16)

18:44 – Consequences vs “curse” explained

22:28 – Passivity & cultural misuse (lighthearted “15:1 words” moment)

23:55 – Missing female leadership; global harms (trafficking/war)

28:13 – Restoration in Christ (Galatians 3:28)

30:13 – Jesus’ model: children, Samaritan woman, bleeding woman; Deborah

34:45 – Personal stories: upbringing & marriage dynamics

36:38 – Complementary gifts in ministry (“professor” bit)

38:38 – Serving posture & witness; mission snapshots

42:35 – Partnership anecdotes & outside observations

44:53 – For singles & spiritual companionship (Ecclesiastes 4:9–10)

46:53 – Abiding in Christ & finding community

47:29 – “Tapestry” metaphor & New Jerusalem vision

51:16 – Closing reflections

51:36 – Outro / blessings