In this episode of the Earned First podcast, Arun Sudhaman speaks with Madan Bahal, co-founder and MD of Adfactors PR, about what it takes to sustain consistent growth in a public relations industry marked by prolonged uncertainty. Reflecting on the pressures facing consultancies, Bahal describes this turbulence as a permanent condition that firms must learn to operate within — a mentality that has helped Adfactors grow to more than $65m in fee income over the past three decades.

The conversation also explores why public relations continues to struggle to command value commensurate with its influence, particularly in India. Bahal discusses how this reality shapes agency behaviour, expectations, and leadership priorities, before turning to questions of succession, long-term continuity and his own peace of mind.

Arun Sudhaman sits down in Dubai with The Romans’ MENA lead, Joe Lipscombe, to explore why the Middle East risks becoming a “margin outpost” – and how it can instead become a true centre of creative gravity. They discuss the indie invasion of the Gulf, why clients are “crying out” for bigger, braver ideas, the impact of localisation and the rise of Saudi Arabia, and what it really takes to be culture-first in fragmented markets like the UAE and across MENA.

Arun Sudhaman speaks with Aman Gupta, managing partner of SPAG Finn Partners, about the evolution of influencer marketing in regulated sectors — and why credibility, compliance and subject expertise now matter more than reach. Presented in partnership with Finn Partners, the conversation explores how structured scoring models can help brands identify credible voices, counter misinformation, and turn influencer investment into measurable impact.