E90 - If You Have Student Loans Listen To This Before You Make Another Payment
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Most people don't realize their student loan servicer is getting it wrong more than half the time. The Inspector General confirmed it: there's a 61% error rate in federal student loans. That means even if you do everything right, the odds are stacked against your loans being handled correctly over a 25-year repayment term. And most borrowers have no idea.
In this episode, Hans sits down with Zack Geist, founder of Student Loan Tutor and one of the leading authorities on federal student loan repayment. They break down what's really happening inside the student loan system, why so many borrowers are overpaying, and how the right strategy can actually result in paying back less than you borrowed.
Chapters:
00:00 – Opening segment
00:30 – Introducing Zack Geist and Student Loan Tutor
01:10 – Bio and background
03:00 – How Student Loan Tutor has saved borrowers over $1 billion
06:25 – The 61% error rate: what it means and why it matters
08:00 – Zack's background
11:00 – The best lessons from failure
14:20 – Zack's eco village and regenerative farm in Hawaii
18:55 – Sovereignty, healing, and intentional community
24:45 – Conscious spending vs. budgeting: a different framework
29:15 – Pay yourself first and invest in learning
33:35 – What Student Loan Tutor actually does and what it costs
36:00 – The student loan trap set for 18-year-olds
39:20 – Why doctors with the same loans pay wildly different amounts
43:20 – The tax bomb at forgiveness: what borrowers aren't planning for
45:10 – Effective interest rate vs. stated interest rate
48:00 – The choose-your-own-adventure moment: what to do right now
50:20 – Closing segment
Key Takeaways:
Know your effective interest rate, not just your stated one. A 7% stated rate means nothing without accounting for your forgiveness timeline, tax exposure, and total payments over the life of the loan. Most Student Loan Tutor clients have a negative effective interest rate, meaning they'll pay back less than they originally borrowed.
There's a 61% chance your servicer is handling your loans incorrectly. This isn't speculation, it comes from the Inspector General. Over a 25-year repayment period, the statistical probability of your loans being processed correctly every single year is lower than getting struck by lightning twice.
Your monthly payment and your optimal monthly payment are probably not the same number. If your effective interest rate is negative, the correct amount to pay above your required minimum is $0. Every extra dollar you put toward that loan is working against you.
The tax event at forgiveness is real and it requires a plan. When your loans are forgiven, the remaining balance is treated as earned income. For many borrowers, that's a $300,000 to $400,000 IRS bill in a single year. Plan for it now, or get blindsided later.
Taking control of your student loans is the first step toward building wealth. The difference between servicing your loans at the standard rate versus optimizing your plan and investing the savings can be seven figures over 25 years. Same income, same expenses, completely different outcome.