Tamlin Deep Dive

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back to kick of their first ACOTAR deep dive - tackling everyone's favorite (or not-so-favorite) High Lord of the Spring Court, TAMLIN! We’ll have you questioning everything you thought you knew about this golden-haired beast.

We start with a heated debate about Tamlin's powers - from his classic High Lord magic to his mysterious shape-shifting abilities that go WAY beyond just turning into a beast! We bring receipts on his ability to shift, glamour, and even his secret wind power that he keeps under wraps. Why would a High Lord hide one of his powers? Could it reveal a secret (and sad) connection to Hybern?

Then we dive into the burning question: how does Tamlin know so much about Feyre's mortal life? Abby makes a compelling argument that Tamlin’s a daemati, while Ronnie brings out a completely on point theory that Tamlin might have orchestrated the events that led to ACOTAR.

We tackle the puzzling connection between Tamlin and Rhys - why would Tamlin wear Illyrian hunting knives when he supposedly hates everything about the Night Court? We examine their complicated past friendship and the tragic events that tore them apart. Could there be more to the story of Rhys's mother and sister than we've been told?

Our investigation takes a fascinating turn when we question why Feyre keeps falling asleep uncontrollably around Tamlin. Is it just symbolism for how he dulls her senses, or is something more sinister at play? We analyze four specific instances and what they might reveal about Tamlin's true nature.

In our first-ever Mass-verse section (spoiler warning!), we explore the mind-blowing possibilities of Tamlin's lineage. Could he be descended from Rowan and Aelin? Is there a connection to a Prince of Hel from Crescent City? And what about his beast form being the exact sigil of the Pack of Devils? The connections are too striking to ignore!

Our Precog Corner gets particularly unhinged as Ronnie theorizes that Amarantha might have been Tamlin's true mate - but not the Amarantha we knew. Was she possessed by a Valg parasite? Meanwhile, Abby debunks the popular theory that Tamlin and Lucian switched places, and proposes that Tamlin was actually the mercenary who bought Andras's pelt!

Spoilers for the entire ACOTAR series (A Court of Thorns and Roses through A Court of Silver Flames)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 03:42: Intro and disclaimers

03:43 - 07:59: Episode structure and announcements

08:00 - 11:05: First impressions of Tamlin

11:06 - 18:16: Tamlin's powers and abilities

18:17 - 24:17: How does Tamlin know so much about Feyre's mortal life?

24:18 - 29:35: Is Tamlin a daemati?

29:36 - 34:16: Did Tamlin manipulate Feyre's entire life?

34:17 - 38:17: Tamlin's connection to Amarantha

38:18 - 43:18: Why does Tamlin wear Illyrian hunting knives?

43:19 - 50:31: Tamlin, Rhys, and the death of Rhys's family

50:32 - 58:09: Why does Feyre keep falling asleep around Tamlin?

58:10 - 59:04: MAASVERSE Deep Dive

59:05 - 1:06:47: MAASVERSE: Where do Tamlin's powers come from?

1:06:48 - 1:12:36: MAASVERSE: Tamlin's connection to the wolves in Crescent City

1:12:37 - 1:20:08: Precog Corner: Was Amarantha Tamlin's mate?

1:20:09 - 1:25:34: Precog Corner: Debunking the Tamlin/Lucien switch theory

1:25:35 - 1:28:54: What we're reading and outro

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back for season 2 with a brand new obsession - the ACOTAR series! We're diving headfirst into Sarah J. Maas's world of fae, magic, and swoon-worthy romance, and we couldn't be more excited to share our thoughts with you!

We kick things off with our overall impressions of A Court of Thorns and Roses as a series, and let's just say we're completely obsessed. Abby confesses that after finishing the Empyrean series, she knew ACOTAR would take over her life (spoiler: it absolutely did). We start with what we love about the series (it’s character development), then we dive into our book-by-book reactions.

While initially slow, we both think A Court of Thorns and Roses is genius on a reread! It takes all the tropes we've come to expect and completely flips them on their head. What seems like a swoon-worthy romance with Tamlin on first read reveals itself as something much darker when you know what's coming.

A Court of Mist and Fury is nearly perfect. It's a beautiful story about love and healing cleverly disguised as fantasy.. Watching Feyre's journey from broken to whole with Rhys by her side is just magical. Ronnie admits, "This book healed a part of me I didn't even know was broken." The character development is just chef's kiss!

A Court of Wings and Ruin brings us Vengeful Feyre and we are here for it! We love seeing her come into her power, and the world-building really expands in this book. The battle scenes are surprisingly engaging because they focus on personal moments rather than just swords clashing. And let's not forget those hints of Cassian and Nesta that had us screaming!

A Court of Frost and Starlight gives us a warm hug of an interlude, though we both agree Feyre is kind of insufferable here, especially in how she treats Nesta. And finally, A Court of Silver Flames - when we die, please bury us with this book! Nesta's journey is raw, real, and so beautifully written. The sex scenes are hands down the best in the series (we said what we said), and watching Cassian stand by Nesta when everyone else abandons her is just everything.

We reveal our favorite and least favorite characters, choose our top sleeper pick characters (we’re team Eris), and each pick our top three moment from the series (Azriel and Cassian landing on the ice, anyone?). This is just the beginning of our ACOTAR journey and we’re so excited to get started! We'll be diving deep into specific topics, characters, and theories in future episodes. And don't worry - we'll always give you a heads-up before any Crescent City or Throne of Glass spoilers!

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Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with their FINAL episode on the Empyrean series! Join us for Part Two of our Book Four Predictions where we dive DEEPER into our theories and tie everything together before we officially move on to ACOTAR!

We kick things off lamenting the summer heat before diving into our most burning questions about what's coming in Book Four. We explore what Violet will be able to do with her dreamwalking abilities - can she spy on people? Create things in dreams? TRAP people there? The possibilities are wild and we're here for all of them!

Then we tackle the future of Violet and Xaden’'s relationship (they're endgame, but that doesn't mean smooth sailing). We predict this will be another book of doubting Xaden - not their relationship, but everything else about him. With Xaden now publicly known as Venin, Violet will face a serious political challenge as Duchess while wrestling with all the secrets he's kept from her. How will she defend him after what happened at Draithus?

We explore what we'll learn from Grandma Niara (finally!), including what really happened when Brennan and Mira were left with her, Asher's mysterious travels, and what Lilith and Asher were ACTUALLY doing during the Tyrrish rebellion. Plus, we theorize about Mira's incredible ward-creating abilities - is she wielding pure power like Violet?

Our Basgiath predictions get intense as we question whether the dragons will continue fighting for Navarre when they know the real threat is the Venin. Will we see full civil war? Will more dragons defect to Tyrrendor? And what about those six missing dragon eggs?! We break down all our theories: are they with Xaden as an offering to the gods? Being used to fire another wardstone? Or taken by Navarre as an act of war?

We round it all out with our predictions about the Venin cure (yes, we think we'll find it, but no, we don't think Xaden will be cured yet), what we'll finally learn about Naolin and Brennan's mysterious past, and how the gods will play into everything. Plus, we share what we're currently reading - Ronnie's deep in ACOTAR's Wings and Ruin while Abby's enjoying The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue.

This is officially our LAST episode on the Empyrean series before we dive into ACOTAR for Season 2! Our first ACOTAR episode will be a general overview, followed by a deep dive on everyone's favorite Spring Court lord, Tamlin (trust us, it'll be good!).

Spoilers for the ENTIRE Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 03:50: We’re not summer girls anymore

03:51 - 05:19: Announcements (TV show updates and ACOTAR news)

05:20 - 18:23: Corrections and social media shout-outs

18:24 - 26:25: Book 4 Predictions - What will Violet do in dreams?

26:26 - 31:04: What will happen with Violet and Xayden's relationship?

31:05 - 34:50: What will we learn from Grandma Niara?

34:51 - 38:17: What will become of Basgiath in Book Four?

38:18 - 42:16: Will there be Venin offspring? Who will it be?

42:17 - 45:09: What will we learn about the Venin in Book Four?

45:10 - 50:32: What role will the gods play in book 4?

50:33 - 54:56: What role will the dragons and the Irids play?

54:57 - 1:01:33: What else will be uncovered about the history of the continent and the isles?

1:01:34 - 1:04:30: Will we find the cure in book 4?

1:04:31 - 1:06:39: Will we finally learn what happened with Naolin and Brennan?

1:06:40 - 1:09:35: How will the six missing dragon eggs play into the plot?

1:09:36 - 1:16:28: What we're reading and Season 2 preview