Holding yourself to impossibly high standards is self-defeating and makes for a miserable life. Can Dr Laurie Santos find ways to tackle her constant perfectionism so she can perform better and have more fun?

She hears from researcher Thomas Curran about a worrying growth in perfectionism in society, and asks "recovering perfectionist" Jordana Confino how to tackle the nagging voice in your head telling you to always push yourself and work harder.

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Prepare to be schooled in the art of conversation by dynamic duo Casey Wilson and Jessica St. Clair. Dismissing the notion that small talk is a painful social obligation, these self-proclaimed small talk maestros share their gift of gab in this laugh-out-loud and instructive audiobook. With their help you might find yourself excitedly asking your barista about the weather…and maybe you’ll get a free coffee. Who knows!

Enjoy Chapter 11: How to Use Small Talk in Love, and if you’re interested in hearing more small talk tips, get the complete audiobook at:

Pushkin: https://www.pushkin.fm/audiobooks/the-art-of-small-talk

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/309by6YVsUZED5MhGlV0H8?si=TDPcSzeWQZKuggmkDRNh9g

Audible: https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Art-of-Small-Talk-Audiobook/B0CPM98G3J

Apple Books: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/the-art-of-small-talk-go-shallow-to-go-deep/id1737294114

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Listen to this special episode from another podcast you'll love called Talk Easy! Actor Tom Hanks joins host Sam Fragoso for an in-depth conversation about his debut novel, his film career, the transformative, eight-year process of making "Cast Away," and his formative friendships with actor Holland Taylor and the late Nora Ephron. Hear more episode: https://apple.co/talkeasy

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