In this episode, the boys are joined by Lucy Biggers. Lucy is a journalist and content creator currently serving as the Head of Social Media for The Free Press. In her mid-20s, Lucy was an influential climate activist whose work for outlets like “NowThis” helped popularize apocalyptic narratives about global warming and bring the Standing Rock protests to national attention.

During COVID, Lucy began to seriously doubt the validity of the cause she was fighting for. She put her activism on hold and reassessed many of the things she believed about climate change. Last May, Lucy started posting again—only this time it was to debunk many of the claims she had once fervently communicated to the world.

Listen to this episode if you want to learn why Lucy isn’t even remotely concerned about CO₂ emissions, find out what Greta Thunberg is like in person, hear Lucy’s impression of a plant stoma, and much more!

You can follow Lucy on Instagram, X, and TikTok

Mentioned in this episode:

• Apocalypse Never - Michael Shellenberger
• Unsettled - Steven E. Koonin
• The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels - Alex Epstein
• Fossil Future - Alex Epstein
• Factfullness - Hans Rosling
• The Long Summer - Brian Fagan

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In this episode the boys are joined by Avery Daye. Avery is a conservative commentator and social media influencer with over 137k followers on TikTok, just under 130k followers on X, and a whopping 335k followers on Instagram.

Listen to this episode to get Avery’s take on immigration, gender issues, whether or not Islam is compatible with the west, and a whole lot more.

For those of you wondering what Clay was saying in the intro...

ما برای شما آزادی، رفاه و عدالت آرزو می‌کنیم. ایرانی که از زنجیرهای حکومت دینی اسلامی رها شده باشد، هدیه‌ای برای جهان خواهد بود. -> "We wish you freedom, prosperity, and justice. An Iran that is liberated from the chains of Islamic theocracy would be a gift to the world."

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• The War on Words: 10 Arguments Against Free Speech – And Why They Fail - Nadine Strossen and Greg Lukianoff
  • A short, easy read that will arm you with the rhetorical weapons you need to fight against censorship.
• Psychobabble: Viral Mental Health Myths & the Truths to Set You Free - Joe Nucci
  • A fascinating look at all the mental health BS you see on your social media feeds. Joe does a great job of setting the record straight.
• Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class - Rob Henderson
  • A beautiful, insightful, and heartbreaking memoir that highlights why a stable, loving family is something that every child deserves.
• Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World - Tom Holland
  • A phenomenal and eye opening account of how Christian philosophy shaped western culture and thinking.
• Meditations - Marcu Aurelius
  • History's greatest self help book. Penned by one of Rome's greatest emperors. A must read for anyone interested in Stoicism.
• The End of the World Is Just the Beginning: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization - Peter Zeihan
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In this episode the boys are joined by Dr. Luke Conway. Luke is a social psychology researcher, professor, and author who has over a hundred pieces on the psychology of politics and culture. He has served as an associate editor for the Society for Personality in Social Psychology's flagship journal and is an elected fellow of that journal and the Society of Experimental Social Psychology. He is currently a Professor of Psychology at Grove City College, and the author of Liberal Bullies: What Psychology Teaches Us about the Left's Authoritarian Problem—and How to Fix It. More recently, Dr. Conway co-authored a fascinating new study titled An Adversarial Collaboration on the Rigidity-of-the-Right, Rigidity-of-Extremes, or Symmetry: The Answer Depends on the Question.

Listen to this episode to learn about how cognitive rigidity is not an especially conservative trait, get Luke's take on whether social psychology has become irredeemably woke, hear his surprisingly controversial opinion about a beloved fast food franchise, and much more!

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• The War on Words: 10 Arguments Against Free Speech – And Why They Fail - Nadine Strossen and Greg Lukianoff
  • A short, easy read that will arm you with the rhetorical weapons you need to fight against censorship.
• Psychobabble: Viral Mental Health Myths & the Truths to Set You Free - Joe Nucci
  • A fascinating look at all the mental health BS you see on your social media feeds. Joe does a great job of setting the record straight.
• Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class - Rob Henderson
  • A beautiful, insightful, and heartbreaking memoir that highlights why a stable, loving family is something that every child deserves.
• Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World - Tom Holland
  • A phenomenal and eye opening account of how Christian philosophy shaped western culture and thinking.
• Meditations - Marcu Aurelius
  • History's greatest self help book. Penned by one of Rome's greatest emperors. A must read for anyone interested in Stoicism.
• The End of the World Is Just the Beginning: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization - Peter Zeihan
  • The best explanation of the post-war American lead global order, and how it's falling apart.