This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are sitting down with Katie, an athlete whose endurance resume is as diverse as it is impressive. From the structured intensity of collegiate rowing and professional triathlons to the rugged freedom of the Appalachian Trail, Katie has seen it all.

We dive into how she navigated high-level burnout to find her passion again in the trail and ultra world—culminating in her unique (and digestive-defying) victory at the Taco Bell 50K. Katie breaks down how she balanced a "Fourth Meal" with race-pace miles, the lessons she carried off the AT, and why she’s traded the Ironman asphalt for the dirt of the upcoming Arizona Trail.

Whether you're looking for professional training insights or just want to hear how one survives a 31-mile burrito run, this episode is a masterclass in versatility.

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are talking about the long game. We sit down with Dusty Jameson to discuss his incredible decade-long pursuit of the "Holy Grail" for many marathoners: the sub-3 hour finish.

Dusty wasn't a natural-born runner—in fact, he started out hating it. He takes us through the evolution from a reluctant runner to an elite performer, sharing the raw reality of the injuries that sidelined him and the mental resilience it took to keep coming back. We break down the specific race strategies, pacing discipline, and injury prevention protocols he used to finally break the 3-hour barrier.

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are joined by a woman who literally rewrote the history books: Ashley Paulson.

Ashley recently stunned the running world by setting the 100-mile World Record, and in this episode, she pulls back the curtain on how she did it. We move past the surface-level talk and dive into the "meticulous" planning required to maintain world-record pace for 100 miles. Ashley shares her specific fueling protocols, the high-volume training strategies that hardened her body, and the "dark room" of mental toughness she enters when the miles get heavy.

From her early days to her future goals of pushing the limits of human potential even further, this is a deep dive into the mind of the fastest 100-mile woman on the planet.