This week we welcome the incredible Phill Smith, one of magic's most prolific creative forces. His fingerprints are on countless books, decks, and products in the magic industry - and anyone who's seen his Penguin Lecture knows his creativity extends far beyond visual design.

In this surprisingly eclectic episode, Phill reveals the eight effects he'd take to a desert island, beginning with the delightfully absurd "Tiny Hand" by Michael Ammar. This unexpected choice creates what Phill describes as a surreal moment where spectators briefly imagine an impossible scenario - a tiny person inside the performer's hand. Contrast this with his second selection: Fork Bending performed as a serious demonstration of seemingly genuine ability.

Phill shares how his journey through mentalism began with Bill Goldman's "Mental Yarn," the first real mentalism effect he ever witnessed. He explains why this procedural method of expanding minimal information into mind reading fascinated him and influenced his own creative approach to magical methods.

The conversation reveals Phill's practical philosophy toward learning and performing. Rather than constantly seeking the "best" version of an effect, he advocates mastering one solid method thoroughly. "I will find a version of something that's good and then I'll polish that so that it becomes the best, rather than spending forever seeking perfection," he explains.

Perhaps most fascinating is Phill's discussion of creating powerful moments through opportunistic performance. He describes how he and his colleagues secretly prepare name revelations at magic conventions by noting spectators' names on badges, then seamlessly integrating this information into performances that feel impossible and deeply personal.

Whether you're familiar with Phill's work designing marked decks like the DMC Elites and Elysium Duets or completely new to his creative contributions, this episode offers valuable insights into creating magic that resonates on a personal level with audiences. His selections demonstrate that sometimes the simplest effects, presented thoughtfully, create the most powerful magical experiences.

Phill’s Desert Island Tricks:

1. Tiny Hand
2. Fork Bending
3. Mental Yarn
4. Inexplicable Thrift Store Find
5. Key Master
6. Twisting the Aces
7. Hands Off / Alpha’s Deck
8. Thetalia

Banishment. Magic Beef

Book. Ahead of the Pack

Item. Forks

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Magic happens only in the mind of the spectator—this profound insight forms the core of our extraordinary conversation with magic legend Michael Ammar. Fresh from his UK lecture tour, Michael joined us in the studio to share the eight effects he'd take to a desert island and the philosophy that has guided his remarkable career.

Michael's stories transport us from the hallowed halls of the Louvre, where a card placed on the ceiling became an unexpected tourist attraction, to Steve Wozniak's living room, where a framed card on ceiling became "the best conversation piece in my house." With characteristic humour, he recounts nearly being arrested at the Wichita airport for a ceiling card escapade and turning a dollar bill inside-out for the very Secretary of Treasury who signed it, discovering only afterward that such currency manipulation might constitute a federal offence!

Beyond these delightful anecdotes lies a deep reverence for the spectator experience. Michael explains how he transforms traditionally passive effects like the Cups and Balls into collaborative experiences where audience members themselves create the magic. He shares profound insights about the critical importance of body language, noting that "people trust body language more than words" yet few performers consciously script their physical communication.

What truly distinguishes Michael's approach is his compassionate view of volunteers. "Every spectator is someone's mother, father, daughter, son," he reminds us, advocating for treating audiences with genuine respect rather than using them as props. This philosophy of leaving the art "cleaner than we found it" resonates powerfully in today's performing landscape.

Whether you're a professional magician seeking to deepen your craft or simply fascinated by the psychology behind astonishment, this conversation with one of magic's most influential figures will transform how you think about the art of creating wonder.

Michael’s Ammar’s Desert Island Tricks:

1. Cups and Balls
2. Card on Ceiling
3. Coins Through Silk
4. Shadow Coins
5. 100 Dollar Bill Switch
6. Bill to Lemon
7. Cannibal Cards
8. Albo Cards (JC’s Super Closer)

Banishment. When Magicians use Spectators as Props

Book (shelf). Art of Astonishment, The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings, The Complete Works of Derek Dingle, Stars of Magic, Expert Card Technique, Collected Magical Art’s Journals, Hugard’s Magic Monthly, Apocalypse magazine, Martin Gardner’s Books

Item. His Wife (or a good coffee machine)

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What makes a magic trick truly unforgettable? For Noel Qualter, it's creating moments that make spectators exclaim, "That's the weirdest, craziest thing I'll remember for a long time!" This philosophy has guided his remarkable career from three-time originality award winner to fooling Penn & Teller.

In this captivating conversation, Noel opens up about co-founding Trick Trick Boom with Roddy McGhie, a company dedicated to producing magic that breaks free from convention. Their first release, Mini Book Pro, exemplifies this approach – a miniature laptop impossibly transforming into a signed card – and has rapidly become a modern classic that professional magicians worldwide have embraced.

Noel's desert island selections reveal the mind of an innovator who values theatrical presentation as much as methodology. From Jon Allen's Destination Box (a twenty-year workhorse in his repertoire) to his newest creation Bandit (which solves the age-old problem of vanishing folded objects in an interesting and fooling way), each choice demonstrates his commitment to practical, memorable magic.

The conversation takes unexpected turns as Noel shares his creative process, including his technique of pausing magic product trailers before the full premise is revealed to spark original ideas. He delivers strong opinions about mentalism (spoiler: he's not a fan) while championing "mental magic" with clear, visual impact. His journey from being cut from Fool Us to eventually fooling Penn & Teller years later offers an inspiring glimpse into persistence and creative evolution.

Whether you're a professional performer looking for fresh material, a magic enthusiast curious about innovative approaches, or simply fascinated by creative thinking, Noel's insights will transform how you view the art of impossible. Check out tricktrickboom.com to discover the offbeat, unforgettable magic this unique creator continues to develop.

Noel’s Desert Island Tricks:

1. Minibook Pro
2. Destination Box
3. Band-It!
4. Benson Burner
5. Glyphs
6. Card Tricks are Extinct
7. Cylinder and Coins
8. WZRD

Banishment. Mentalism

Book. Daemon Magic Catalogue

Item. iPad

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