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RJ tells us the story about his altercation and how that scary moment reminded him of the Psalms. The crew debates whether it’s time to let our wives join us on the pod. We reflect on Father’s Day and the ongoing struggle of maintaining the Biblical mandate of Fatherhood.

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Isaiah opens up about a real-time challenge with forgiveness. The crew discusses Michael Tait’s confession, GloRilla’s gospel award win, and the complicated world of celebrity Christian culture. Then they dive deep into how to live a quiet life and how to kill your personal ambitions.

Did Isaiah get into a fight, living a quiet life and are celebrity christians weird?!

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RJ reveals the name of his newborn—and yes, it’s inspired by The Matrix. Isaiah opens up about his marriage clip going viral. The crew also unpacks one of the most profound truths in Scripture: God is love. What does that actually mean for how we live, love, and grow spiritually?

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Surprise! We hit record after Episode 3 and kept the convo going. Spoiler: half the pod has never seen Jurassic Park, the other half hasn't made it through a single Mission: Impossible... and none of us are caught up on John Wick. Also WE ARE NOT BOYS!

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What do NBA draft conspiracies, defending the faith, and holding each other accountable have in common? This episode.

In Ep. 3, we kick things off debating the Dallas Mavericks’ draft miracle and whether the NBA lottery was rigged. But it quickly turns toward the real stuff—like how equipped the average Christian is to defend their faith, and what it looks like to pursue accountability in marriage, ministry, and community.

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We get real about how faith shows up in our everyday decisions—from what we watch and listen to, to how we raise our kids and set personal boundaries.

⏱️ Timestamps + Highlights

00:00 – Cold Open
Everyone agrees: if we get canceled, it’s RJ’s fault.

Anthony Edwards, Victor Wembanyama, and branding in the NBA.

04:00 – News

• New American Pope
• Chicago hot dogs and Catholic history
• Can Christians explore other religions without fear?

08:00 – Parenting & Indoctrination
Parenting styles, raising children with spiritual awareness, and how much exposure is too much.

12:00 – The Sinners Movie & Christian Movie Filters
How our media choices change after marriage and kids.

31:00 – Letting Go of Music & Personal Convictions
Our music tasted changed as we got closer to God

35:00 – Conviction ≠ Legalism
Holy Spirit’s voice vs copying other people’s convictions.

41:00 – Sanctification is a Process
The guys unpack how sanctification happens in stages—from teenage years to adulthood—and how the Holy Spirit confirms identity.

43:00 – Hoop Confessions & Accountability
Isaiah shares a funny moment about cussing on the court and how his fiancé's presence convicted him.

47:00 – Closing
“Responsibility brings the best out of men. And the Holy Spirit will always convict you in a personal, loving way.”

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In this debut episode of the Deeper Roots podcast, we discuss our motivations for starting the podcast, our journeys, and the concept of 'deeper roots' in spiritual life and community. We also explore the power of unified effort and sacrifice through a playful debate on whether a hundred men could defeat one gorilla.

00:00 Introduction and Soda Talk
00:26 Welcome to the Deeper Roots Podcast
01:01 Meet the Hosts
01:32 The Meaning of Deeper Roots
02:17 RJ's Perspective on Deeper Roots
03:30 Jason's Perspective on Deeper Roots
05:26 Isaiah's Perspective on Deeper Roots
08:09 How the Podcast Came to Be
08:13 Chris's Journey to Podcasting
09:29 RJ's Journey to Podcasting
13:33 Pastor Jason's Vision for the Podcast
15:39 Isaiah's Vision for Church Content
17:35 The Importance of Community
25:26 Consistency in Faith and Leadership
27:03 The Importance of Vulnerability and Community
32:40 Emotional Expression in Biblical Context
34:30 Redefining Manhood Through Scripture
38:00 The Value of Brotherhood and Mentorship
45:06 The Power of Collective Wisdom
50:08 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections