Debunking the Pagan Christmas Myth with Seth Udinski

In this special Christmas-themed episode, Grant sits down with Seth Udinski, co-host of Financial Issues and a historian with a background in church history and theology, to explore the true origins of Christmas. Together, they trace the holiday back to the early church, examine when Jesus was most likely born, and unpack why December 25th has been observed by Christians for nearly two millennia.

The conversation dives into:

Whether Christmas was “Christianized paganism” or an authentically Christian tradition

The early church’s understanding of Christ’s birth and why it mattered

How Rome’s conversion to Christianity shaped Christmas as a feast

The story of St. Boniface and the origin of the Christmas tree

The historical St. Nicholas, his generosity, and how his legacy points back to the Gospel

How light, trees, feasting, and gift-giving all symbolize Christ entering the darkness of the world

Rather than stripping Christmas of meaning, this episode shows how its traditions were redeemed, preserved, and intentionally centered on Christ—from the first centuries of the church to modern celebrations.

Whether you’re curious about church history, wrestling with questions about Christmas traditions, or simply want a deeper appreciation for the season, this episode offers a thoughtful, historically grounded perspective on the history of Christmas.