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In this episode of Data Talks, Wolfgang Fengler sits down with Indermit Gill, Chief Economist of the World Bank, for a wide-ranging conversation on the forces reshaping the global economy.

From the middle-income trap and India’s growth potential to Europe’s economic model, oil shocks, trade barriers, and the promise of AI, Indermit brings sharp insight to one of the biggest questions of our time: what will define the next era of global development?

Together, they explore why some countries rise while others stall, what today’s global crises mean for growth and inflation, and how better data and new technologies could transform the future of public services in developing economies.

At a moment of deep uncertainty, this episode offers a timely and thought-provoking look at the world economy at a turning point.

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In this episode of Data Talks, World Data Lab CEO Wolfgang Fengler speaks with co-founder and global middle class expert Homi Kharas about new research that challenges one of the most widely discussed narratives in economics today.

Featured prominently in The Economist, World Data Lab’s latest analysis examines inequality through the lens of consumption rather than wealth. By comparing how much the bottom 50% of the global population consumes relative to the top 10%, the data reveals a surprising trend: global inequality in consumption is improving, largely driven by rapid economic growth in countries such as India, China, Indonesia, and across Southeast Asia.

Together, Wolfgang and Homi explore:

• Why consumption inequality may be a more meaningful measure of real living standards than wealth inequality
• How global economic growth is lifting billions of people out of extreme poverty
• Why the rise of emerging economies is reshaping the global distribution of prosperity
• The role of government policies, taxation, and public services in influencing inequality within countries
• And why, despite ongoing global uncertainty, the long-term trajectory for human welfare may be more positive than many assume.

The conversation offers a data-driven perspective on one of the defining debates of our time — and highlights how new global datasets can help policymakers, businesses, and researchers better understand the real progress happening across the world economy.

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Building Digital Africa with Bitange Ndemo

In this episode of Data Talks, Wolfgang Fengler speaks with Professor Bitange Ndemo, Kenya’s Ambassador to Belgium and the European Union, former Permanent Secretary for Information and Communication, and one of the architects of Kenya’s digital transformation.

Widely regarded as a driving force behind the modernization of Kenya’s ICT sector, Prof. Ndemo oversaw landmark reforms including the installation of undersea submarine cables, the liberalization of telecom markets, the reduction of mobile termination rates, the launch of Kenya Open Data, and the rise of innovation hubs such as iHub and mLab. These reforms helped position Kenya as a continental leader in digital innovation.

Now serving in diplomacy while continuing his academic and research work in entrepreneurship and ICT-driven development, Prof. Ndemo reflects on the policy decisions that reshaped a nation, and what Africa must do next.

The conversation explores:

• How infrastructure unlocked Africa’s digital economy
• The political economy of reform and regulation
• Why Africa can leapfrog in AI and emerging technologies
• The power of youth, innovation, and open data
• And what “building digital Africa” truly means in the next decade

A thoughtful discussion on leadership, policy, technology, and Africa’s place in the global digital future.

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In this episode of Data Talks, Wolfgang speaks with Kirti Singh, Chief Insights Officer at Procter & Gamble, about what it truly means to be consumer-first in a company that serves more than 5.5 billion people worldwide.

Kirti reflects on her 30+ year global career spanning India, China and the United States, and how her very first day at P&G, spent inside a consumer’s home, shaped her philosophy on leadership and growth.

The conversation explores:

• How P&G drives market growth, not just market share
• The rise of emerging markets and generational change
• Why “Data Is Human” and what that means in the age of AI
• How Human + AI is reshaping the analytics profession

A powerful discussion on insight, global leadership and the future of consumer-driven strategy.

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How Data Changed the Climate Conversation
Host: Wolfgang Fengler
Guest: Sir Andrew Steer KCMG, PhD

How did climate and nature move from the sidelines to the center of global economic decision-making—and what role did data play in that shift?

In this episode of Data Talks, Wolfgang Fengler speaks with Sir Andrew Steer KCMG, PhD—former President & CEO of the Bezos Earth Fund (2021–2025), former President & CEO of the World Resources Institute, and now Professor in Practice at the London School of Economics’ Global School of Sustainability.

Andrew reflects on key turning points in the evolution of environmental economics, including the rise of “natural capital” and the growing demand for evidence-based climate policy. The conversation explores today’s most important data innovations—from satellite and AI-enabled monitoring of forests and carbon stocks to the emerging ability to detect methane emissions from space—and why better measurement doesn’t automatically translate into better action.

They close with a powerful set of numbers about biodiversity loss and the future of development, and what it will take to turn climate data into durable progress.

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In this episode of Data Talks, we’re joined by Benedikt Höwedes, World Cup winner with Germany, former long-time captain of FC Schalke 04, and a leader shaped by elite football environments.

Benedikt reflects on his journey from academy football to captaining his boyhood club, and on playing every minute of Germany’s 2014 World Cup triumph. The conversation explores how football has evolved, from physical demands and tactics to data, performance science, and the growing complexity of the modern game.

At the heart of this episode is a clear message: despite analytics, technology, and commercial growth, football remains a human game. Leadership, trust, team culture, and connection still define success at the highest level.

A thoughtful conversation at the intersection of data, performance, and the people behind the game.

Note this episode is in German

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This episode of our podcast brings together Wolfgang Fengler and Shamina Singh for a powerful conversation on inclusion, data, and the rapidly changing digital-to-AI economy. Shamina shares the origin story of the Mastercard Center for Inclusive Growth, the shift from the analog world to a data-driven one, and why networks and access determine economic opportunity. Together, they explore the rising “data divide,” the role of AI in shaping the next decade, and how organizations can ensure technology serves people, not leaves them behind. The discussion spans financial inclusion, privacy, regulation, human-centered innovation, and the global middle-class transformation, all framed through real-world impact and shared values. It’s a thoughtful, energizing episode that captures the spirit of building a more inclusive and connected world.

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Data Talks: Measuring Peace with Steve Killelea

In this episode of Data Talks, World Data Lab CEO Wolfgang Fengler speaks with Steve Killelea, respected entrepreneur, philanthropist, and founder of the Global Peace Index.

Steve shares his journey from building successful tech companies to dedicating his life to understanding and measuring peace. Together, they explore how data can quantify something as complex as peacefulness, what the Global Peace Index reveals about today’s conflicts, and how shifting global power, inequality, and technology will shape the future.

An engaging discussion about the data behind peace, and what it tells us about the world we’re building next.

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