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DEI After 5 with Sacha

DEI After 5 with Sacha

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DEI After 5 is where inclusion meets real life. Hosted by Sacha Thompson, this weekly podcast explores how current events shape our workplaces and communities—with practical insights and honest reflection.

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  • How to Create Good Relationships with Your Team Members
    Apr 14 2026

    In this podcast swap episode of the Improve Work Podcast, host Daniela Tancau welcomes Sacha Thompson, founder of Equity Equation, to explore how team leaders can enhance their relationships with team members. The conversation delves into essential leadership skills, approaches to managing both their own emotions and those of their team, and the importance of trust in fostering a healthy workplace culture. Sacha shares her expertise in building inclusive environments and fostering psychological safety, offering listeners practical insights to improve their leadership effectiveness. Tune in for valuable strategies to elevate your team dynamics and create a more motivated, high-performing environment.



    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deiafter5.substack.com/subscribe
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    39 m
  • From Affirmative Action to Access: Navigating the Changing Landscape of Higher Education
    Apr 7 2026

    College access isn’t just about admissions decisions—it’s about the support systems that help students arrive, adjust, and stay. In this episode, Sacha Thompson reflects on her own path into higher education and the kind of program support that helped her succeed—especially for students who are first-generation or from underserved backgrounds.

    She’s joined by Terrence Gresham, a talent advisor and consultant, to unpack what’s happening as colleges dismantle, rebrand, or scale back DEI-related programs—and what that means for recruitment, trust, and student success.



    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deiafter5.substack.com/subscribe
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    29 m
  • DEI Backlash and the Future of Inclusive Leadership
    Mar 31 2026
    There is a lot of noise right now about the so-called “end” of DEI.Some organizations are quietly backing away from their commitments. Others are changing the language but keeping some of the work. And many leaders are trying to figure out what they can still say, do, or stand for without becoming the next headline.But underneath all of that is a bigger truth: the need for inclusive leadership has not gone away. If anything, this moment is making it even more necessary.The backlash against DEI has exposed something many of us have known for a long time. In too many workplaces, inclusion was never fully built into the culture. It was added as a statement, a training, a campaign, or a temporary priority. It sounded good in public, but it was often missing from the day-to-day experience of employees.That is where the real problem lives.Because when people talk about backlash, what they are often reacting to is not just the language of DEI. They are reacting to years of shallow efforts, inconsistent follow-through, and leadership teams that wanted the appearance of progress without the discomfort of real change.And people can tell the difference.Employees know when an organization’s values are reflected in decisions, behaviors, and accountability. They also know when those values only show up on a website, in a statement, or during moments of public pressure. That gap between what an organization says and what people actually experience is where trust starts to erode.This is why the future of inclusive leadership cannot be built on performance. It has to be built on practice.Inclusive leadership is not about saying the right words. It is about creating the conditions where people can contribute, raise concerns, challenge ideas, and be seen as fully human without being punished for it. It is about how decisions get made, whose voices shape them, and what happens when harm occurs. It is about whether leaders are willing to listen when the feedback is inconvenient, and whether they are prepared to change something meaningful in response.That kind of leadership requires more than intention. It requires courage.It also requires sacrifice, which is the part many organizations still struggle with. Everybody wants inclusion until it costs something. Until it means sharing power. Until it requires rethinking long-standing norms. Until accountability has to apply to people at the top, not just everyone else.That is why so much of what has been called inclusion has felt like an illusion.You cannot market your way into trust. You cannot statement your way into credibility. And you cannot ask people to believe in belonging while they are still navigating exclusion, silence, or retaliation behind the scenes.This moment is asking leaders a harder question than “Do you support DEI?”It is asking: What kind of workplace are you actually building?Because even if the terminology changes, employees are still looking for the same things. They want trust. They want fairness. They want compassion. They want stability. They want to know that their voice matters and that leadership can be counted on to act with integrity. Those needs do not disappear because a company changes its language. They become even more important when people feel uncertainty in the culture.That is where inclusive leadership has an opportunity to mature.The future of this work belongs to leaders who understand that inclusion is not a side initiative. It is a leadership practice tied directly to culture, trust, retention, innovation, and risk. It shows up in how meetings are run, how feedback is handled, how conflict is addressed, how opportunities are distributed, and how leaders respond when someone says, “Something here does not feel right.”It also belongs to organizations that are willing to move beyond optics and into honest examination.That means looking at where the friction points really are. Where are people experiencing the biggest disconnect between the organization’s values and their everyday reality? Where do employees feel unsupported, unheard, or left out of key decisions? Where are certain groups carrying a heavier burden to navigate the culture, while others are insulated from it?These are not abstract questions. They are culture questions. Leadership questions. Business questions.And they are exactly the kinds of questions organizations should be asking if they want to build workplaces that can withstand pressure, change, and uncertainty.The backlash against DEI may have changed the conversation, but it has not changed the underlying need. People still want workplaces where they can do their best work without navigating unnecessary harm. They still want leaders who know how to build trust, repair it when it breaks, and create environments where people feel respected and supported.That is why inclusive leadership still matters.Not because it is trendy. Not because it sounds good. But because organizations cannot build durable ...
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