Tom Lawrence started out as an engineering apprentice at an automotive company in Liverpool in the UK. He worked in this industry for a few years, throughout which he found himself working under multiple managers who were not particularly good leaders. These were the quintessential managers of the past… people who just focussed on “getting the job done”. Once he became a manager, he found himself scrambling to figure out the job of leading a team – wishing he had been trained by his predecessor. This led him to the realization that if a manager really does a good job, they are actively upskilling their team to become leaders themselves.

Today you will hear about how Tom came to write his book “Manager to Leader” (Amazon) and we dig a little deeper into a few of the topics he covers in this book. Tom is passionate about teaching people to lead well and I was inspired by his worldview on leaders.

Discussion Points

• Tom’s leadership journey
• Writing “Manager to Leader”
• Managers vs Leaders
• False influence vs genuine influence
• How to influence genuinely
• Leaders being developed before becoming leaders
• Insecure leaders vs secure leaders
• What is micromanagement?
• Changing managers’ mindsets
• Tips
• Leading up
• What has had the biggest impact on Tom’s leadership journey

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Manager to leader book (Amazon)

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In this episode of the Cultural of Leadership Podcast, Brendan dives deep with Henrik Bresman, a professor and author of X-Teams, exploring why traditional team models fail in today’s fast-changing world. Henrik shares insights on building high-performing teams by focusing externally—embracing knowledge, power, and work structures beyond the team.

From overcoming discomfort to asking tough questions, this conversation offers practical strategies for leaders to navigate complexity and foster a culture of impactful leadership. Tune in for actionable wisdom!

Watch the YouTube video here:
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SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 - Introduction and Welcome
00:22 - Overview of X-Teams
02:35 - Why Traditional Models Fail
05:29 - The Aha Moment for X-Teams
08:02 - Henrik’s Leadership Journey
11:17 - Knowledge Structure: Internal vs. External
24:58 - Power Structure: Influence Beyond Titles
33:33 - Work Structure: Managing Interdependencies
43:45 - Tools for X-Teams Success
48:06 - The Power of Asking Questions
51:34 - Staying Relevant as a Leader
52:53 - Building a Leadership Culture
54:47 - Closing Thoughts and Book Insights

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What factors go into the recruitment process? What makes a good leader? Why does treating candidates with respect matter? These are some of the questions that we’ll explore in today’s episode.

Today’s guest is Mark Purbrick. Mark is the Managing Director of Peoplogica. He has over 35 years of management experience, including 23 years at the General Manager or Chief Executive Officer level, as well as more than 30 years of board director experience for both private enterprise and government-controlled entities. Mark assists clients to make the right business and people capital decisions.

Mark has designed Innovative People Capital Solutions and has ensured that Peoplogica is at the forefront of people tests, assessments, and surveys. He specializes in the attraction, selection, and retention of high-performing talent. Listen to today’s episode to hear what Mark has to say about what high-performing talent looks like, how businesses can attract them, and what leaders need to be doing through the selection process.

Discussion Points:

• Mark’s passions for attracting talent and for winemaking
• An overview of Peoplogica
• The types of business or leaders that seek Mark’s help
• What a high-performing talent looks like
• Consistency or inconsistency in the behaviors that high performers have
• How a business can attract high-performing talent
• What leaders need to do throughout the selection process
• Treating candidates with courtesy
• Tools that offer the best value in the interview process
• The costs of getting the wrong person in the organization
• What a company needs to do to retain top talent
• Most effective tips for leaders
• How much easier the Peoplogica tools make coaching conversations for leaders
• The biggest bit of advice for attracting, selecting, and retaining high performing talent

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