“Do no harm” and “treat the whole person” are fundamental principles of the medical field and also resonate with pastoral care rooted in the Christian tradition. Internationally-renowned physician-scientist Dr. Michael DeBaun joins Canon Missioner Leonard Hamlin and Dr. Sonia Coman to discuss how these principles guide the work of doctors and spiritual shepherds in today’s highly techonologized environment.

Additional Resources:

• Dr. DeBaun's Election to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences

Continuing our exploration of AI and ethics, the podcast welcomes David Timis, an expert in disruptive technologies and workforce development. With experience at Google and now as part of the leadership of Generation, one of the world’s largest employment nonprofits, David lends his perspective and insight to this timely conversation on how AI is reshaping the workforce.

Download transcript: https://cathedral.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Ep-39-Transcript.pdf

Additional Resources:

• Learn more about David
• The Human Difference in the AI Age

Icons of biblical and American history adorn many of the Cathedral’s stained glass windows, needlepoint kneelers, and stone carvings. Chosen at the time as figures to be remembered or emulated, what advice or insight might these icons have for us about the challenges of our current society? Canon Leonard Hamlin joins Kevin Eckstrom for a creative exploration of Cathedral iconography.

Download transcript: https://cathedral.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Ep-38-Transcript.pdf

Additional Resources:

• "Icons Speak" in Cathedral Age