In this episode of Creatives Like Us, host Angela Lyons speaks with Mo Kanjilal, diversity and inclusion leader, TEDx speaker, and co-founder of Watch This Sp_ce. Mo shares her journey from senior roles in the tech industry to launching a purpose-led inclusion consultancy during the pandemic. With a background in English and a career spanning global sales and marketing, Mo talks candidly about the challenges of working in non-diverse environments, the importance of representation, and how she channelled those experiences into meaningful change. The pair discuss the founding of Watch This Sp_ce, the thinking behind its distinctive name, and the creative process behind Mo’s co-authored book The Inclusion Journey, which explores how organisations can build inclusive cultures through practical, human-centred steps.

The conversation also touches on the power of mentoring, the value of being paid for your expertise, and how Mo balances multiple roles, from charity trustee to writer. Angela and Mo reflect on how creativity shows up in unexpected ways, particularly in sectors like tech, and the importance of saying yes to opportunity. Mo shares insights into her team’s flexible, remote approach to work, the growing impact of their consultancy, and what’s next for her personally and professionally, including plans for a second book and more public speaking. With thoughtful, grounded reflections throughout, this is a rich and inspiring listen for anyone navigating creative or mission-driven work.

Mo's Links

Mo’s website:
https://www.watchthisspace.uk/services/speaking/mo-kanjilal-speaker/

Mo’s TedX talk:
https://youtu.be/iPDsC4LPPc0

Mo’s book:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inclusion-Journey-Creating-strategy-engagement/dp/1398616729

The Clock Tower Sanctuary - https://www.thects.org.uk/

Here – Care Unbound (where Mo is aNon-Exec Director) - https://hereweare.org.uk/

Technative Digital where Mo is a Board Advisor - https://www.technativedigital.com/

The Girls Network where Mo is a mentor - https://www.thegirlsnetwork.org.uk/

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In this episode of Creatives Like Us, host Angela interviews performance poet Adisa, also known as The Verbaliser. Adisa shares his creative journey, beginning with his early involvement in Jamaican sound system culture and moving into poetry as a more meaningful and mature form of expression. He talks about being inspired by his father’s love of music and the discipline it taught him, as well as the importance of having role models and mentors in his early career.

Adisa discusses his work in schools and with corporate clients, using poetry as a tool to build confidence, cultural awareness, and connection. He reflects on the lack of Black history in mainstream education and how this drives his work with young people, especially African Caribbean boys. He also speaks about his involvement with the Black Unity Bike Ride, his love of cycling, and a passion project called The Poetry Pedlar. The episode ends with a live reading of his poem Take Time and a quick-fire Q&A. It’s a grounded and reflective conversation about creativity, culture, and using your voice with purpose.

The late and great poet - Benjamin Zephaniah said this about Adisa, “ Adisa is the future it’s so good to have something to look forward to”.

Links and Resources

Adisa’s Website: www.adisaworld.com

Instagram – @adisapoet: instagram.com/adisapoet

Black Unity Bike Ride: blackunitybikeride.com

Apples and Snakes: applesandsnakes.org

The Poetry Pedlar (YouTube series): https://www.youtube.com/@adisapoet

Benjamin Zephaniah (tribute/reference): benjaminzephaniah.com

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“I wanted my children to grow up knowing there is space for them.” - Sylvia Prince

This week on Creatives Like Us, Ange speaks with Sylvia Prince, designer and founder of Sylvia Prince Designs. Sylvia shares her journey from graphic design to launching her own range of Afrocentric cards, created to reflect and celebrate black and brown children, particularly those who are often underrepresented, including children with vitiligo and albinism. She opens up about overcoming perfectionism, the importance of visibility, and the encouragement that helped her finally start her business.

They also discuss the wider impact of Sylvia’s work, including her collaboration with the Vitiligo Society UK to develop school resource packs that support understanding and inclusion. Sylvia reflects on the value of creating work representing real people and experiences and how that representation can make children feel seen and celebrated.

Links and Resources

Website: sylviaprince.com

Instagram: @sylviaprince_designs

Facebook: Sylvia Prince Designs

The Vitiligo Society UK – https://vitiligosociety.org/

Year of Yes by Shonda Rhimes

Professional Troublemaker by Luvvie Ajayi Jones

Bozoma Saint John and the "Badass Workshop"

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