Conversations: The Friendship Behind the Podcast

Two friends and two decades of story. We open the door on how our friendship began in Atlanta—roommates, youth ministry, and life maps—and how those early rhythms shaped the way we lead, teach, and pray today.

We also trace the roots of The Father’s Business. Elizabeth’s mom, Sylvia Gunter, never set out to build a brand; she prayed with people, wrote what served them, and watched God carry those resources farther than any plan could. When Sylvia handed us the baton, she gave us permission to honor the heartbeat while finding our own voice. That voice found a home in our podcast. Starting in 2022, we began translating legacy tools into conversations you can take on a walk, into the car, or onto the couch. And we keep returning to identity: knowing who God is and who you are in him.

If you’re longing for practical ways to trust God when life looks dark, to grow a resilient faith, and to be reminded you’re a beloved son or daughter, you’re in the right place. Listen, share it with a friend. Then tell us what you want us to tackle next—we’re listening. You can find us on YouTube now as well in our video format.