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Robert P. Jones, founder of the Public Religion Research Institute and NYT bestselling author, joins Marcus and Antwuan to unpack the data behind Christian Nationalism in America. From why white evangelical Protestants identify with this worldview, to how demographic shifts have turned a "moral majority" into a desperate power grab, to the surprising nuance in how these numbers show up across racial lines, this conversation is essential for anyone trying to understand what's happening to Christianity in America right now.

Robert's new book, Backslide: Reclaiming a Faith and a Nation After the Christian. PREORDER: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250431134/backslide/

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What if your passion for justice is quietly destroying your soul?

In this powerful episode of Colored Commentary, we sit down with Jonathan Walton, author of Beauty and Resistance, to wrestle with a question many activists, church leaders, and everyday people rarely stop to ask:

What’s actually driving your justice work: God or your own wounds?

From burnout and trauma to ego, identity, and faith, this conversation goes beyond surface-level activism and exposes the deeper forces shaping how we show up in the world.

Jonathan shares raw, personal moments—from physical breakdown under stress to confronting his own false sense of identity—and offers a different way forward: one rooted in spiritual rhythms, humility, and deep integrity.

Don’t miss this conversation; it might change the way you engage justice, faith, and even yourself.

Resources Referenced:

1. Feelings Wheel: (Concern) how do I feel? Why do I feel it? What's the story I tell myself about this feeling?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x...

2. Incarnational Listening: (Compassion) remaining differentiated to remain connected while listening to others' stories.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16...

3. PACE yourself: Pray, Assess, Collaborate, Establish
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14LRj...

4. The Crux on Substack.
https://thecrux.substack.com/subscrib...

5. Follow @JonathanPanWalton on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/jonathanpan...

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Get ready to do history! Karen Johnson takes Markus and Antwuan beyond the compilation of names and dates to examine how history is created. In her book Ordinary Heroes of Racial Justice: A History of Christians in Action, Karen presents four case studies that help readers understand race dynamics in the United States. Through the exploration of racial justice in the United States, Karen helps us understand the significance of history, its impact on our current times, and provides inspiration for living out faith and justice.

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