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In this episode of the Microsoft 365 Dev Podcast, Julie and Andrew dive into the results of the 2025 State of JavaScript survey, sharing their take on the trends, tools, and libraries shaping the JavaScript ecosystem. They discuss why the survey is so valuable for developers, from discovering new language features to tracking the rise and fall of popular libraries. The conversation covers the dominance of Vite as the most loved library, React's continued strong usage despite growing pain points, the steady decline of Webpack sentiment, and the emergence of tools like Rolldown (a Rust-based bundler from the Vite team) and Hono (a backend framework with sky-high satisfaction ratings).

Beyond libraries, Julie and Andrew explore front-end framework trends, noting that the era of constantly jumping between frameworks seems to be over, with the average developer using just 2.6 frameworks across their career. They also touch on testing tools (including Vitest's rapid rise alongside Jest's declining satisfaction), the state of AI coding tools in the survey results, mono repo tooling, and some interesting community picks like Observable Framework for building dashboards. Whether you're a seasoned JavaScript developer or working in the Microsoft 365 ecosystem, this episode offers a great pulse check on where the industry is heading.

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🔗 State of JavaScript Survey 2025 Results
🔗 Vite
🔗 Vitest
🔗 Rolldown
🔗 Hono
🔗 Observable Framework

Andrew's Picks:
🔗 Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on employment or productivity—and it has economists resurrecting a paradox from 40 years ago
🔗 This CTO Says 93% of Developers Use AI, but Productivity Is Still 10%

Julie's Pick:
🔗 Camellia Beans

🎙️ PODCAST
🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky

🎙️ HOSTS
Julie Turner
Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter

SPONSORS

Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Website 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube

Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 Website 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky

Music Credit: Ken Bagley

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (05:01) - State of JavaScript 2025 Survey
• (01:09:21) - AC's & Julie's Picks

In this episode, we explore PnPjs, the widely-used open source TypeScript library that simplifies Microsoft 365 development by providing a fluent API for SharePoint REST and Microsoft Graph endpoints. Co-maintainer Julie Turner explains how PnPjs eliminates manual URL string concatenation, offers IntelliSense support for discovering API methods, and works seamlessly across SharePoint Framework (SPFx) client-side solutions, Node.js server applications, and browser-based apps.

We discuss the library's tree-shaking capabilities for minimal bundle sizes, flexible authentication options, including built-in SPFx context behaviors, and its pass-through design that preserves underlying API functionality. Whether you're building SPFx web parts, Azure Functions, or Teams applications, learn why over 38,000 tenants rely on PnPjs to generate 40 billion API calls monthly and how to get started with just two core packages.

📚 CHAPTERS
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00:00 : Introduction
06:16 : News / Interview
53:52 : AC's & Julie's Picks

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From the episode intro & banter:
🔗 Breast Cancer Marathon

News / Feature
🔗 PnPjs
🔗 M365 Community Conference

Andrew's Pick:
🔗 Hacking Moltbook: The AI Social Network Any Human Can Control
🔗 How AI assistance impacts the formation of coding skills

Julie's Pick:
🔗 Qobuz

🎙️ PODCAST
🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky

🎙️ HOSTS
Julie Turner
Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter

SPONSORS

Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Website 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube

Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 Website 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky

Music Credit: Ken Bagley

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (06:16) - News / Interview
• (53:52) - AC's & Julie's Picks

In this episode, Andrew Connell and Julie Turner cover critical SharePoint Framework issues affecting developers in early 2026. We discuss breaking changes in the new document library experience that push command set extensions to overflow menus and break folder hiding settings, a significant debugging bug preventing field and form customizers from executing on lists during local development, and the upcoming SPFx Developer Toolbar. We also dive deep into the architectural debate between data-bound "smart" controls versus separation of concerns, examining dependency conflicts in PnP Reusable Controls caused by outdated PnP.js versions and why forcing developers to accept control-imposed dependencies creates maintenance nightmares.

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From the episode intro & banter:
🔗 AC: Microsoft 365 Copilot & Claude Naming is Misleading
🔗 Julie: Ask Sympraxis & WorkIQ

SharePoint Framework Issues & New Features:
🔗 🐞 Issue 10607: SP Lists breaking SPFx extensibility (field & form customizers)
🔗 🐞 Issue 10598: New doc library breaking SPFx extensibility
🔗 💬 Ask Sympraxis: New Document Library (FEB-4, 2026)
🔗 ✨ SPFx Debug Toolbar

Data-Bound Controls
🔗 PnP Reusable React Controls
🔗 PnP Reusable Property Pane Controls

Andrew's Pick:
🔗 Apollo Guidance Computer: Restoring the computer that put man on the Moon

Julie's Pick:
🔗 Tech Promised Everything. Did it deliver? | Scott Hanselman

🎙️ PODCAST
🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky

🎙️ HOSTS
Julie Turner
Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter

SPONSORS

Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Website 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube

Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 Website 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky

Music Credit: Ken Bagley

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (16:45) - SharePoint Framework News (issues & new feature)
• (40:04) - Data-Bound UX Controls
• (01:01:56) - AC's & Julie's Picks