We’re back! In this Season 5 premiere, the team reunites after their summer break to kick off an exciting new chapter. Join us as we catch up, share bold predictions for the year ahead, and explore big questions, like whether 2026 will be the year of the autonomous organization. Expect candid reflections, lively discussion, and a sneak peek at what’s coming up this season.

We are very keen this season to establish a feedback loop with listeners, so will be doing shows exploring listener questions and challenges - something we are really looking forward to. Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn, Substack or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we'd love to hear from you!

TLDR:

00:20 – We’re back!
00:35 – Catching up on what we did during the summer break
10:48 – Planning ahead until Christmas: Microsoft Ignite, AWS re:Invent, an AI mini-series and cool guests
20:27 – Tech talk: iPhone 17, deep democracy training, and the human impact of innovation
32:10 – Will autonomous organizations powered by agents emerge within 12–18 months?
40:45 – Reflections inspired by Jaws, climbing adventures, and Bruce Springsteen

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Dave, Esmee, and Rob are strapping in for another season of bold, brain-bending conversations—and they’re bringing the flux capacitor with them from Back to the Future.

Season 5 beams in global leaders and innovators who challenge how we think about technology, business, and humanity. From AI disruption to digital sovereignty, from leadership to culture—this season’s guests are ready to shake things up.

Our first full episode drops on September 25, but before we hit 88 miles per hour, here’s a quick trailer to set the timeline straight, or at least bend it a little.

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Dave, Esmee, and Rob take a moment to look back on the wild ride that was Season 4—revisiting the themes that sparked the biggest conversations and the guests who left a lasting impression. They also reveal what’s on their summer to-do lists and drop a few juicy hints about what’s coming in Season 5. Get ready—it’s going to be even bigger and bolder.

Thank you to all our listeners and guests for joining us in Season 4 - have a great summer and we will see you in September!

TLDR:
00:40 Season 4 by the numbers – and a fun mix-up with round figures
03:20 Reflecting on standout topics and memorable guests
03:42 Scaling AI: Hyperscaler narratives, tech momentum, and the adoption gap
13:18 Ethics in the AI era – how organizations can and must stay grounded
18:12 The human factor: Why “human-in-the-loop” matters more than ever
27:29 Sovereignty in tech – geopolitics, shifting narratives, and the rise of Sovereign AI
37:16 A deep dive into Telco – highlights from our dedicated mini-series
53:48 2025 tech trends with Gene Kim

55:33 Listener Q&A: Daniel Delicate on Cynefin vs. IT operating models
1:01:44 Andrea Kis on keeping humanity in fast-paced tech
1:06:09 Ezhil Suresh on how we prep and record our podcast with top-tier guests
1:11:38 John Eaton-Griffin on how guests have shaped our thinking
1:17:19 A word from our co-host
1:19:57 Looking ahead to Season 5: AAA episodes, new industry mini-series, and Hyperscaler events
1:22:09 Meet our new AI companions: Substack and the Cloud Realities chatbot
1:23:40 What’s next for us this summer

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini