Chinese Whispers

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  • A fortnightly podcast from the Spectator on the latest in Chinese politics, society, and more. From Huawei to Hong Kong, Cindy Yu talks to experts, journalists, and long time China-watchers on what you need to know about China.
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  • What does it take to be 'an old friend of the Chinese people'?

    What does it take to be 'an old friend of the Chinese people'?
    Apr 7 2025
    ** Chinese Whispers is coming to an end. Later this year, Cindy Yu will be joining The Times and The Sunday Times to write a regular column on China. To stay abreast of her latest work, subscribe to her free Substack at chinesewhispers.substack.com **

    The term ‘old friend of the Chinese people’ might seem a colloquial, almost sentimental, phrase to appear in official diplomatic language, but in the Chinese context, those words have a very specific meaning. Most often, they refer to high profile foreigners whose actions have helped the Chinese Communist Party in one way or another. The most famous of these is Henry Kissinger, who led the way for American rapprochement with China.

    That the CCP gives various foreigners this honour is revealing of China’s priorities over the decades, but also of its attempts to co-opt foreign forces to its cause. Think back to the United Front strategy, which we looked at on the podcast earlier in the year.

    To discuss this honorific, I’m joined Professor Anne-Marie Brady, a China expert at the University of Canterbury in New Zealand, who was among the first to look at China’s old friends as a serious political concept some 20 years ago, and Ryan Ho Kilpatrick, a journalist based in Hong Kong.
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  • From Chimerica to Cold War II: how US-China relations soured

    From Chimerica to Cold War II: how US-China relations soured
    Mar 24 2025
    ** Chinese Whispers is coming to an end. Later this year, Cindy Yu will be joining The Times and The Sunday Times to write a regular column on China. To stay abreast of her latest work, subscribe to her free Substack at chinesewhispers.substack.com **

    It’s easy to forget that, as recently as the start of this century, the US was China’s biggest ally. Washington saw Beijing as a necessary bulwark against Moscow, and consistently supported China’s entry into the world economy ever since rapprochement in the 1970s, including its accession to the World Trade Organisation.

    These days, the relationship couldn’t be more different. Why have relations cooled quite so fast? When was the turning point? And can we now say that rapprochement was a strategic mistake from the US?

    Bob Davis is a former senior editor at the Wall Street Journal, who was posted to China between 2011 and 2014. In recent years, he has been conducting a long running series of interviews - with dozens of high level officials over successive American administrations - for the online magazine, The Wire China. He has interviewed defense secretaries, ambassadors, national security advisors, treasury secretaries and more. Now, these interviews have been collated into a new e-book released by The Wire China: Broken Engagement.

    Through these interviews, we can see the changing direction of US-China relations through the eyes and words of those at the very heart of America’s decisions. Bob joins this episode to tell us all about it.
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    37 m
  • Rana Mitter on the legacy of Sun Yat-sen

    Rana Mitter on the legacy of Sun Yat-sen
    Mar 10 2025
    Walking around Taipei a couple of years ago, I spotted a familiar sight – a bronze statue of a moustachioed man, cane in his right hand, left leg striding forward. The man is Sun Yat-sen, considered modern China’s founding father. I recognised the statue because a larger version of it stands in the city centre of Nanjing, the mainland Chinese city that I was born and raised in.

    That one figure can be celebrated across the strait, both in Communist PRC and Taiwanese ROC, is the curious legacy left behind by Sun. March 12th this year is the centenary of Sun’s death, so what better opportunity to look at his legacy, and who better to discuss Sun than the historian Rana Mitter, who needs no introduction with Chinese Whispers listeners.

    Further listening:
    Japan’s role in the making of modern China
    What is it to be ‘Chinese’?
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How ‘common prosperity’ is important for China’s future

Listening to Scott Rozelle discuss the transformation of 90% of China's rural low-income population into middle-class consumers provided me with valuable insights into the motivations behind the 'common prosperity' agenda. Despite political complexities, the potential impact on countless lives is evident. This candid conversation between Cindy and Scott offers a refreshing departure from shallow demonization, presenting a nuanced understanding of developments in China. I highly recommend it to anyone seeking a deeper understanding of what is happening in China.

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Informative fun and warm hearted

I initially found the podcast on the Apple App where I listened this and half dozen other episodes. They offer rich information about today’s China and the world around it, through the interviews of long time “China watchers” who provide not just expertise but also a mixture of perspectives, all nicely produced and fun to listen to. Thank you!

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