In the final instalment of this series, we continue to unpack the confusing timeline of Room 209 - including the controversy around crown witness Brett Howden and the alleged slap and “splits” incidents, leading up to the verdicts and how the country reacted to them. At the end, Kristi shares her personal opinion about what likely happened in that hotel room — and why the verdicts would have remained the same anyway. The difference is in how the judge got there.

Thanks for your patience with this deep-dive series and for allowing us the time to give it the attention it deserves!

(This final part is long and spans two episodes - Part 5 will be available within 24 hours)

We’ll also be looking at:

• Why the court zeroed in on E.M.’s level of intoxication
• Her supposed motive to fabricate evidence
• The reasons for the judge’s ultimate conclusion that E.M.’s evidence was “not credible or reliable”
• Why - despite saying rape myths and stereotypes would be avoided, the judge’s written decision reads like the opposite
• Public speculation about why this case went to trial at all
• The damaging impact of this trial



Content Warning: Graphic details of sexual acts.

Please note: this series does not dispute the judge’s not guilty verdicts.

Our position is that the framing of the evidence in the written decision was unnecessary and damaging, with impact that extends far beyond the trial.

More information and resources:

• WATCH: Team Canada World Junior Trial Verdict w/ Katie Strang | The Steve Dangle Podcast, Youtube, July 29 2025
• READ: The Hockey Canada trial could have been a reckoning. It was something else - by Dan Robson and Katie Strang, The Athletic, July 24 2025.
• LISTEN: The Trial of Jacob Hoggard (JB’s story) and Kelly Favro’s Story
• If you or anyone you know is experiencing sexual violence and abuse, help is available at REES Community or Ending Violence Canada - Sexual Assault Centres, Crisis Lines and Support Services
• Beyond The Verdict: www.beyondtheverdict.ca

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[Part 3 of 4] In Part 3, we unpack the confusing timeline of Room 209 and the contradictions at the heart of the case. A clear pattern emerges: the five accused players were repeatedly given the benefit of the doubt, while E.M. was scrutinized and cast as unreliable.

Thanks for your patience with this deep-dive series and for allowing us the time to give it the attention it deserves. Part 4 will wrap this series up, and then we’ll be back to our usual schedule.

Please note: this series does not dispute the judge’s not guilty verdicts.

Our position is that the framing of the evidence in the written decision was unnecessary and damaging, with impact that extends far beyond the trial.

*Additional content warning: Graphic details of sexual acts.

More information and resources:

• WATCH: Hockey Parents - A profile of Mitch Marner and Michael McLeod's parents from 2009, by Peter Wall for CBC via YouTube
• READ: What Was Left Unsaid in the Hockey Canada Trial | The Walrus, by Ariella Garmaise, Sept 10 2025
• FYI: The “Junior Hockey Bible” via Internet Archive (content warning!)
• LISTEN: The Trial of Jacob Hoggard (JB’s story). Kelly Favro’s Story
• If you or anyone you know is experiencing sexual violence and abuse, help is available at REES Community or Ending Violence Canada - Sexual Assault Centres, Crisis Lines and Support Services
• Beyond The Verdict: www.beyondtheverdict.ca

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[Part 2 of 4] The Hockey Canada verdicts are final, but the story isn’t. Kristi Lee looks closely at the most talked-about evidence, how it was reflected in the written decision, and how that shaped public opinion. Thanks for your patience!

In this episode:

• The flaws in the first police investigation - and why it didn't result in charges
• Michael McLeod's instagram exchange with EM the day after the hotel room incident
• The "group chat" six days later that appears to show the hockey players trying to get their stories straight
• The series of debacles that resulted in this jury trial switching to judge-alone
• Survivors JB and Kelly Favro return to share their perspectives about watching this case unfold not only as survivors — but also as massive hockey fans.

*Additional content warning: Details of sexual acts.

PLEASE NOTE: This series does not dispute the judge’s verdicts. Instead, it highlights a deeper truth: contradictions and inconsistencies existed on both sides, yet the accused players’ accounts were overwhelmingly accepted while the victim-complainant's was dismissed as “not credible or reliable.” Regardless of verdicts, our position is that this framing was both unnecessary and harmful — and its impact reaches far beyond the trial itself.

More information and resources:

• LISTEN: Kelly Favro’s Story and The Trial of Jacob Hoggard (JB’s story)
• WATCH: Steve Dangle Show on Youtube - Team Canada World Junior Trial Verdict w/ Katie Strang, July 29 2025
• READ: The Hockey Canada trial could have been a reckoning. It was something else - by Dan Robson and Katie Strang,The Athletic, July 24 2025
• If you or anyone you know is experiencing sexual violence and abuse, help is available at REES Community or Ending Violence Canada - Sexual Assault Centres, Crisis Lines and Support Services
• Beyond The Verdict:www.beyondtheverdict.ca

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Kristi Lee gives an honest and transparent update about why Part 2 of the Hockey Canada trial is taking longer than expected.

Thank you so much for your patience and understanding as we take the time to cover this case with the care and thoroughness it deserves.

In the meantime:

Read JB's Op-Ed in the Globe and Mail, and on our website: "When aggressive tactics are praised as legal strategy, it’s survivors like me who pay the price."

Check out Beyond the Verdict - our new survivor-led advocacy group to challenge a justice system that puts sexual assault survivors on trial. www.beyondtheverdict.ca

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A special four-part series — Two extraordinary guests join Kristi to take you through one of the biggest scandals in Canadian sports history. They know what it means to survive not only sexual assault - but the trial itself. And you probably know their stories:

• J.B. - aka the "Ottawa woman" who testified against former Canadian musician Jacob Hoggard
• Kelly Favro - survivor and advocate from British Columbia who helped re-write Canada's publication ban laws.

As the country reacts to the Hockey Canada trial verdicts delivered last week, J.B. and Kelly share what they saw unfolding, how it mirrors their own experiences, and what the public needs to understand about what victim-complainant “E.M.” may be living through. They also share eye-opening details about shocking courtroom tactics they've endured, and challenge us to rethink what justice really means.

*Additional content warning: While not the focus of this episode, there is mention of graphic details of sexual acts, and suicidal thoughts. Please take care when listening.

More information and resources:

• LISTEN: Kelly Favro’s Story
• LISTEN: The Trial of Jacob Hoggard (JB)
• RESOURCES: If you or anyone you know is experiencing sexual violence and abuse, help is available at REES Community or Ending Violence Canada - Sexual Assault Centres, Crisis Lines and Support Services
• Beyond The Verdict: www.beyondtheverdict.ca

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It started with a shocking message in a private chat: “I’ve just slaughtered my entire family.” What was first thought of as a grim joke soon became a frantic race to uncover the truth… and prevent a real-life horror from getting worse.

The intention of this episode is to take a look back at a shocking crime, how it impacted the community, and how it might have been prevented. Some names have been changed to respect the privacy of those involved.

Recommended listening:

Casefile Case 50: Jennifer Pan

Canadian true crime donates monthly to those facing injustice.

This month we have donated to Canadian Resource Centre for Victims of Crime

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From the creators of the award-winning podcast They Walk Among Us comes The Lost Boys of Wineville—an extended limited series spanning 30 in-depth episodes.

This gripping true-crime saga unravels a chilling story that unfolded nearly a century ago in the shadow of the recently erected Hollywoodland sign, and reached its harrowing conclusion on a remote poultry ranch…

For more information, visit www.thelostboysofwineville.com

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On a freezing night in Norman’s Cove, a brutal attack leaves the small coastal town shaken to its core. As police investigate, a twisted plot starts to unravel…

The intention of this episode is to honour the victim of a harrowing crime that was largely ignored by the media at the time, and resulted in harmful rumours.

Some names have been changed to respect the privacy of those involved.

*Additional content warning: this case contains some details of graphic violence. Please take care when listening.

Recommended reading:

The Murder of Minnie Callan: A True Newfoundland Crime Story by Tom Gruchy, 2018.

Court document: 1987 CanLII 5192 (NL SC) | R. v. Butt | CanLII

Canadian True Crime donates monthly to those facing injustice.

This month we have donated to the organizations that stage the In Her Name Vigil:

First Light St John's Friendship Centre

NL Sexual Assault Crisis and Prevention Centre

St John's Status of Women Council

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