Can Rachel Reeves clamber out of the black hole?

Rachel Reeves gets her moment in Liverpool, but Sam and Anne explain why the podium at Labour conference might be the second biggest thing of her week.

By Friday, the OBR will have put a number on the size of the black hole – the money she’s got to find to fund policy u-turns on policies such as winter fuel.

You’re not getting that number from anyone from government in Liverpool though.

Elsewhere, Andy Burnham is still in lots of the conversations – and we hear what members of the Cabinet are getting about him in their WhatsApps.