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The CTO Podcast explores the worlds of Chief Technical officers as they manage the trials, tribulations, and triumphs of technologists in the C-suite. Hosted by Etienne de Bruin, founder of 7CTOs and author of CTO Excellence in 100 Days: Becoming the leader your company deserves.

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  • LIQUID – How CTOs Harness Complexity to Unlock Flow

    LIQUID – How CTOs Harness Complexity to Unlock Flow
    Aug 20 2025
    In this conversation, Nishant interviews Kathy Keating, Etienne de Bruin, and Scott Graves, co-authors of LIQUID: How CEOs and CTOs Unlock Flow and Momentum in Complex Systems. They discuss how the idea for the book was born, the challenges of co-authoring as three CTOs, and how they shaped the narrative through the fictional characters Alice (CEO) and Theo (CTO). The authors share how their distinct voices and strengths fused together: Scott’s deep knowledge of complex adaptive systems, Kathy’s operational lens, and Etienne’s ability to simplify and communicate concepts. Together, they created a framework that blends philosophy, practice, and story.The conversation highlights the importance of seeing organizations as complex adaptive systems and the risks of companies becoming either “boiling” (chaotic) or “frozen” (rigid). The authors emphasize that true leadership comes from navigating toward liquidity, the state where flow and adaptability are preserved. They reflect on the critical role of CEO-CTO partnership, the necessity of boundaries, and the difficulty of shifting culture once it stagnates. They also explore why the timing of LIQUID is especially relevant today. As technology accelerates, craft alone is not enough. Leaders must become sense-makers and problem-solvers at the systems level.About the BookLIQUID takes readers inside the hidden systems that drive every organization. Using the fictional journey of Alice, a founder-CEO, and Theo, her engineer-turned-CTO, the book shows how teams often slide into boiling chaos or frozen rigidity without realizing it. By illustrating the patterns of complexity through story, the authors make abstract concepts tangible and immediately useful.At its core, LIQUID argues that the most important role of the CTO is not simply delivering technology but stewarding the entire system so that people and processes remain in flow. The book introduces accessible frameworks, practical language, and vivid scenarios that help leaders spot when their organizations are shifting out of balance and how to guide them back to a liquid state.Whether you are a CEO, CTO, or executive navigating rapid change, LIQUID is a blueprint for unlocking resilience, adaptability, and momentum in your company. It bridges systems thinking with real-world leadership and equips you to see and influence the invisible dynamics that make or break technology organizations.Time Stamps00:00: Introduction: Why LIQUID matters now02:00: Behind the authors: creativity, systems, and personal lenses07:00: Discovering each other’s strengths during the writing process13:00: Pivoting the book: from frameworks to storytelling17:00: The origin story: from CTO failures to systemic insights23:00: Defining the role of the CTO in complex systems28:00: Why now: AI, accelerated change, and systems thinking33:00: The 7CTOs connection and levels of complexity40:00: Why Alice and Theo: storytelling as a teaching tool46:00: Subjective perspectives in complex systems52:00: The hidden world of complexity and CTO boundaries59:00: CEOs and CTOs as co-sensemakers1:04:00: Simple versus complex language in leadership communication1:12:00: Culture as the hardest complexity to shift1:20:00: Coaching example: boiling versus frozen organizations1:28:00: The CEO’s challenge: orchestrating boundaries1:31:00: Partnership, empathy, and trust at the executive level1:33:00: If LIQUID had a soundtrackLIQUID: LinkedIn / WebsiteContact Nishant: LinkedInContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Kathy: Website /LinkedInContact Scott: Website / LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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    1 h y 35 m
  • Steven Zgaljic, Jahnel Group, CTO: Harnessing AI for Health Insights

    Steven Zgaljic, Jahnel Group, CTO: Harnessing AI for Health Insights
    Apr 1 2025

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    In this episode, Steven Zgaljic, CTO of Jahnel Group, joins host Etienne de Bruin to share a personal story about his daughter’s health challenges. Faced with the need to meticulously track symptoms and daily activities, Steven leveraged his technical expertise to create a custom AI-powered solution using tools like N8N and Superbase. The conversation highlights how AI can transform complex problems into actionable insights, even in personal contexts.

    Steven discusses the challenges of using traditional methods like pen and paper for symptom tracking, leading him to build an automated workflow integrated with Slack. By applying AI for data validation and pattern recognition, he gains real-time insights into potential triggers and patterns in his daughter's symptoms. Beyond his personal use case, Steven reflects on the broader applications of AI in problem-solving and the necessity of human oversight in AI-driven systems.

    This conversation explores the intersection of personal challenges, technological innovation, and the potential of AI to improve lives.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction and Overview 01:00 Steven Zgaljic's Background and Family Story 03:00 Challenges with Tracking Medical Symptoms for His Daughter 05:00 Using Slack for Family Communication 07:00 Applying AI to Track and Analyze Symptoms 09:00 Exploring N8N, Superbase, and AI for Automation 11:00 Creating Validation Models for AI Accuracy 13:00 Building a Custom AI System for Health Tracking 15:00 AI Insights and Pattern Recognition in Health Data 17:00 Future Plans for AI Health Analysis 18:00 Reflections on AI in Problem Solving

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    Contact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Steven: Website /LinkedIn

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    19 m
  • Zayna Rose, Image Strategist & Communications Consultant: Elevating Your Image as a Tech Leader

    Zayna Rose, Image Strategist & Communications Consultant: Elevating Your Image as a Tech Leader
    Jan 8 2025

    In this episode of the CTO Podcast, host Etienne speaks with image strategist Zayna Rose about the importance of personal branding and leadership presence for technology leaders. They discuss how visual identity, color psychology, and intentional self-expression can enhance a leader's credibility and connection with others. Zayna emphasizes the need for tech leaders to be mindful of their appearance and how it impacts their professional image, while also encouraging them to embrace their authentic selves. The conversation highlights practical tips for improving one's image and the significance of digital presence in today's world.

    Time Stamps

    00:00 Introduction to the CTO Podcast and Guest Zaina Rose

    03:06 Understanding Leadership Presence

    05:29 The Importance of Visual Identity

    09:55 Casual Power Looks for Tech Leaders

    12:18 Strategic Wardrobe Levels

    16:30 Choosing Colors That Work for You

    21:17 Tailored vs. Standard Looks

    23:38 Experimenting with Self-Expression

    30:14 Leveraging Digital Assets for First Impressions

    34:33 Practical Steps for Improving Personal Branding

    38:42 Enhancing Stage Presence and Communication

    42:45 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

    We have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials Video

    Contact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Zayna: Website /LinkedIn



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    51 m
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