Build Bacteria Better

Levelling up goes down the drain as its champion Gove vanishes. Whatever happened to the Tory pledge to the re-grout the Red Wall? Plus, as sewage on the beaches turns us into the dirty man of Europe, is the case for nationalising utilities now unanswerable? This week’s guest is Anand Menon, director of The UK in a Changing Europe think tank.

• “If the Tories have a plan, they are not sharing it with us yet… and that is causing a lot of anger.” – Ros Taylor
• “There's not much space for levelling up when you're in full crisis mode." – Ros Taylor
• "Did Tory MPs vote for shit to be pumped into rivers? No. Did they stop it? No." – Alex Andreou

Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Alex Andreou and Ros Taylor. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.