What happens when a psychic medium has an unexpected encounter with Jesus—and everything changes?

In this powerful and eye-opening episode of "Into the Supernatural," actress Jen Lilley and journalist Billy Hallowell sit down with Jenn Nizza, a former tarot card reader and medium who was deeply entrenched in the occult for years. Jenn doesn’t hold back as she shares her shocking journey from deception to deliverance. It all began at 13 with a tarot card reading—what followed was a dark descent into New Age practices, witchcraft, and false light that seemed “helpful,” but masked something far more sinister.

Jenn explains how demonic spirits offer accurate information—not because they know the future, but because they watch us. She exposes how the enemy plants “counterfeit prophecy” and uses spiritual deception to manipulate emotions, relationships, and even personal identity. But Jenn’s story doesn’t end in darkness—it turns when, in a moment of desperation, she unexpectedly cries out to Jesus… and everything shifts.

Hear the incredible details of her radical transformation. If you’ve ever wondered about psychics, “harmless” tarot readings, or the spiritual realm—don’t miss this one. Jenn’s story will challenge you, convict you, and above all, point you straight to Jesus.

In this gripping episode, best-selling author and investigative journalist Lee Strobel sits down with Billy Hallowell and Jen Lilley to unpack his most personal and provocative project yet—Seeing the Supernatural: Investigating Angels, Demons, Mystical Dreams, Near-Death Encounters, and Other Mysteries of the Unseen World. Strobel, known for The Case for Christ, brings his legal mind and journalistic rigor to topics many believers shy away from—yet are desperate to understand.

Why do so many people, even nonbelievers, report deathbed visions, angelic encounters, or near-death experiences that eerily align with biblical truths? Strobel shares riveting, documented accounts—from blind individuals gaining sight during clinical death to children describing angels with surprising biblical accuracy. And in a culture fascinated by the paranormal but increasingly distant from faith, Strobel explains how the supernatural may be the bridge to a deeper spiritual awakening.

Jen shares her own awe and urgency, pointing to Scriptures many churches gloss over and reminding listeners that signs, wonders, and miracles aren’t just relics of the past—they’re promises for every believer today. Billy draws attention to the cultural irony: Hollywood embraces the demonic, while parts of the Church shy away from talking about the spiritual realm at all.

From skepticism to belief, from Sunday school stories to peer-reviewed evidence, this conversation will challenge you to reevaluate what you believe about the invisible world—and why it matters for your walk with God today. Whether you're a doubter, a seeker, or a sold-out believer, this episode will stir your soul and ignite your imagination.

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters.

Author and apologist Melissa Dougherty joins the show again to discuss "New Thought," how differentiates it from New Age — and why she believes Christians must beware.

Melissa's also explores her new book, "Happy Lies: How a Movement You (Probably) Never Heard Of Shaped Our Self-Obsessed World."

This is the finale of "Playing With Fire!" Stay tuned April 11 for a totally new show -- "Into the Supernatural," co-hosted by Billy Hallowell and actress Jen Lilley.

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