In this week's episode of Beyond the Desk, Mark Thomas sits down with Sally Ng, Change and Technology Delivery Director at RSA. Sally shares her remarkable journey - from arriving in the UK as a child with no English language skills, to becoming a leading force in transformation delivery within one of the UK's most historic insurers.

We explore her early creative passions, how growing up in a family-run Chinese takeaway instilled a fierce work ethic, and the pivotal moment she swapped a future in art for a career in technology. Sally talks candidly about her time in consulting at Accenture, her transition into industry with QBE and DXC, and how RSA is now embracing a bold future as part of the Intact Group.

Key topics discussed:

• Sally’s journey from Hong Kong to Greenwich and how it shaped her resilience
• A decade at Accenture: consulting as a fast-track training ground
• Moving into industry and finding her voice as a leader
• The power of the Chief of Staff role in shaping her outlook
• Learning when to let go as a leader and why it’s critical for growth
• Delivering tech and data transformation at RSA as it becomes part of Intact
• Her passion for diversity in tech and giving back to the next generation
• Why insurance is ripe for innovation and full of purpose at its core
• Advice on navigating imposter syndrome, career pivots, and building self-worth

This episode is a powerful story of grit, growth, and leadership from someone who never set out to be in tech but is now helping shape its future in UK insurance.

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This episode is brought to you by Invecta Search, the brand new leadership search product from Invecta Group, which leads the insurance industry in building best-in-class technology and transformation leadership teams. Find out more: linkedin.com/company/invecta-group

In this week's episode of Beyond the Desk, Mark Thomas sits down with Hasani Jess, Group CTO at Aventum Group. Hasani shares his fascinating journey from an early love of technology (sparked by an old-school typewriter that his mum brought home!) through a career spanning global consulting firms, banking, healthcare, luxury retail, travel, and now, speciality insurance.

We cover pivotal career moments, the transition from engineer to leader, and how strategic decisions and mentorship shaped his progression into senior leadership. We also dive deep into the transformation underway at Aventum Group and Hasani’s vision of creating a true Insurtech leader within speciality insurance.

Key topics discussed:

• How Hasani first discovered his passion for technology (and journalism!)
• Lessons from early career roles at BT, IBM, Morgan Stanley, and Visa
• His critical transition from hands-on engineer to leadership at UnitedHealth UK
• How working at Harrods and TUI shaped his views on operational pace and customer focus
• Securing his first CTO role at Simply Business and navigating that leap
• The power of mentoring and deliberate career planning
• Building a technology-led culture at Aventum Group
• Hasani’s take on AI’s role in insurance and the future of digital collaboration
• Why keeping great teams engaged is one of the biggest leadership challenges

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• Mark Thomas on LinkedIn: Connect Here
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• Hasani on LinkedIn: Connect Here

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New episodes drop every Tuesday. Stay tuned for more conversations with leaders shaping the future of insurance and InsureTech. Thanks for tuning in - see you next time on Beyond the Desk! 🎧

Sponsor:

This episode is brought to you by Invecta Search, the brand new leadership search product from Invecta Group, which leads the insurance industry in building best-in-class technology and transformation leadership teams. Find out more: linkedin.com/company/invecta-group

In this week's episode of Beyond the Desk, Mark Thomas sits down with Vandana Bhatia, Director at Boston Consulting Group (BCG) and globally experienced technology transformation leader, currently shaping strategy and innovation in the insurance sector. Her journey from building early chatbots in India to leading transformation for tier-one insurers across the US, UK and Europe is a fascinating one!

Some of the key topics they discuss are:

• Her early career as a software engineer and the leap to business strategy
• How moving countries shaped her leadership style
• Her thoughts on AI’s adoption curve in insurance
• Why core modernisation is just the beginning
• The role of mentorship, mindset, and culture in accelerating careers

This is a must-listen for anyone in insurance, tech, or transformation who wants to understand the next wave of innovation and how to prepare for it.

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• Mark Thomas on LinkedIn: Connect Here
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• Vandana Bhatia on LinkedIn: Connect Here

If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who might find it valuable!

New episodes drop every Tuesday. Stay tuned for more conversations with leaders shaping the future of insurance and InsureTech. Thanks for tuning in—see you next time on Beyond the Desk! 🎧

Sponsor:

This episode is brought to you by Invecta Search, the brand new leadership search product from Invecta Group, which leads the insurance industry in building best-in-class technology and transformation leadership teams. Find out more at www.invectagroup.com