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Beyond The Interface (BTI)

Beyond The Interface (BTI)

De: Jay Tulloch Warren Nugent
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Hosted by Jay Tulloch and Warren Nugent, this podcast explores the intersection of design (UX), product management, and technology, with insights from industry leaders on leadership, trends, and hard-hitting topics.Jay Tulloch, Warren Nugent
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  • Ana Sofia Gonzalez: From UI to AI… Why Designers Must Evolve or Get Left Behind
    Mar 31 2026

    In this episode of Beyond The Interface, we sit down with Ana Sofia Gonzalez, Principal Product Designer at Microsoft, to unpack how AI is fundamentally reshaping the role of designers.

    From leading innovation across Copilot Studio to navigating ambiguity at scale, Ana shares what it really means to operate at a principal level, where design is less about screens and more about strategy, ownership, and business impact.

    We explore the shift from “designing interfaces” to designing systems, outputs, and AI-driven experiences, and why designers must evolve beyond craft to stay relevant.


    🚀 In this episode, we cover:

    • What separates a Principal Product Designer from the rest
    • Why ownership & proactive thinking are the real differentiators
    • The rise of the “player-coach” designer in modern teams
    • How AI is changing workflows, roles, and expectations
    • Why designers need to think in ROI, metrics, and business impact
    • The future of UI: Are we moving beyond interfaces entirely?
    • What happens to junior vs senior designers in an AI-first world
    • How to influence stakeholders and drive change without authority


    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction and Background of Anna-Sophia

    03:07 Role of a Principal Product Designer

    05:47 The Evolving Role of Designers

    09:13 Ownership and Accountability in Design

    11:56 The Impact of AI on Design Processes

    15:00 Collaboration and Team Dynamics

    18:04 Strategic Thinking and Long-term Vision

    21:11 Measuring Success and ROI in Design

    23:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    31:52 Seeing Ideas Through: The Importance of Follow-Up

    34:25 Navigating Remote Work: Cultural Shifts and Communication

    36:08 Influencing Ideas: The Art of Persuasion in Design

    39:37 Embracing a Fail-Fast Culture: Innovation and Openness

    41:43 The Future of Design: AI as the New Interface

    44:26 Strategic Thinking: The Evolving Role of Designers

    47:13 The Junior Designer Dilemma: Training the Next Generation

    50:37 Adapting to Change: The Rise of AI in Design

    52:14 Customer-Centric Innovation: Balancing Speed and Quality

    58:51 Originality vs. Competition: Finding Unique Solutions


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    1 h y 5 m
  • Harry & Jack (Discovered MENA): The Brutal Reality of Design Hiring in 2026... Surplus Talent, AI & Broken Portfolios
    Mar 17 2026

    The design hiring landscape is shifting fast, especially in the UAE.

    In this episode of Beyond The Interface, we sit down with Harry and Jack from Discovered MENA to explore what’s really happening in the design recruitment market.

    They discuss the growing surplus of design talent, why junior designers are struggling to break into the industry, and what hiring managers are actually looking for when reviewing portfolios and CVs.

    The conversation also dives into the state of design leadership in the Middle East, the increasing overlap between product and design roles, and how AI may reshape the future of the profession.

    If you're navigating the design job market or building design teams, this episode offers a candid look at the realities of hiring in 2026.

    Topics covered:

    • The current state of recruitment in the UAE
    • Why junior designers are struggling in today’s market
    • How to craft a portfolio that stands out
    • What makes a strong design CV
    • Job search strategies that actually work
    • The lack of mature design leadership in the region
    • How AI could reshape the future of design roles


    Links:

    Harry SIlvester

    Jack Steven

    Discovered MENA

    JFBI


    Chapters:

    00:00 The State of Recruitment in the UAE

    11:40 Challenges for Junior Designers

    17:28 Crafting a Standout Portfolio

    26:31 Navigating the CV Landscape

    37:47 Innovative Job Search Strategies

    41:01 The State of Design Leadership in the UAE

    44:49 Challenges in Design Leadership Recruitment

    48:32 The Impact of AI on Design Roles

    53:29 The Evolution of Design Roles and Responsibilities

    01:02:04 JFBI: A New Era in Design Education


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    1 h y 12 m
  • Dr. Nick Fine: Is Product Management Failing UX? AI, Leadership & the Future of User-Centered Design.
    Mar 3 2026

    In this episode of Beyond The Interface, we sit down with Nick Fine for one of the most candid conversations we’ve had on the state of the UX industry.

    Nick doesn’t hold back.

    We dive into:

    • Why “A players hire A players” is breaking down in today’s product orgs

    • How leadership insecurity is damaging product quality

    • Whether product management has become a failed experiment

    • Why proper user research is being deprioritised

    • The real impact of AI on UX and product development

    • And what needs to change if we want to rebuild strong, user-centred teams

    From empire-building leadership to the fear driving today’s design culture, this episode challenges the narratives many teams are quietly struggling with.

    If you care about building better products and protecting the craft of UX ... This one is essential listening.


    Links:

    Dr. Nick Fine's LinkedIn


    Chapters:

    00:00 Introduction to User-Centric UX

    04:14 The State of the UX Industry

    10:51 Leadership and Management Failures

    15:44 The Role of Agile in UX

    20:20 The Impact of AI on Product Management

    24:50 The Future of UX Design and Training

    32:06 The Evolution of Product Teams

    41:40 The Illusion of Speed in App Development

    44:06 Back to Basics: The Importance of UX Principles

    45:35 Skepticism Towards AI in Product Development

    48:23 The Fear Factor in Design and Leadership

    49:29 The ROI Dilemma in Product Management

    51:24 Leadership Accountability and the Future of UX

    53:19 The Decline of User Research Quality

    57:25 Reinstating Value in User Research

    01:01:57 The Future of User Research and AI

    01:12:24 Quality vs. Mediocrity in UX Design


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    1 h y 18 m
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