Episode 010 of Between Two Founders: René Lacerte has spent nearly three decades building the financial infrastructure that powers millions of small businesses. As the founder and CEO of BILL, he has created a platform that now processes over 1% of US GDP, serving nearly half a million customers and 9,000 accounting firms.

In this epsiode with Jeff Seibert, René shares his journey as a fourth-generation entrepreneur. He introduces the concept of "Owner Mode" as his alternative to the founder mode vs manager mode debate, and shares his contrarian view that SMBs don't want more AI, they want less work.

The episode also marks the launch of the Digits × BILL partnership, designed to simplify and automate financial operations in real time while reducing manual work and errors.

A masterclass in building financial infrastructure that works for small businesses.

Connect with us here:

1. René Lacerte- https://www.linkedin.com/in/renelacerte/

2. Jeff Seibert- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jseibert/

3. Digits- https://www.linkedin.com/company/digits-financial/

4. BILL- https://www.linkedin.com/company/bill/

00:00 Trailer

01:25 Introduction

03:02 René’s Entrepreneurial Roots

05:36 Innovations in Payroll and Financial Operations

07:44 The Genesis of ⁠Bill⁠

22:59 The Evolution of Leadership

26:19 AI and the Future of SMBs

29:26 Building an AI Platform

34:10 Leadership Reflections and Advice

37:25 Advice for First-Time Founders

Episode 009 of Between Two Founders: Jeff sits down with Wade Foster, Co-founder and CEO of Zapier, to uncover how a “weird,” fully remote team built one of tech’s most influential platforms, now behind 81+ billion automations.

Wade also shares Zapier’s origins, from a Startup Weekend in Columbia to a second shot at YC, and reveals how Zapier is weaving AI into its workflow engine to make automation both reliably structured and intelligently adaptive.

Stay till the end to hear Wade answer: What’s the CEO of Zapier’s favorite use of his own product?

00:00 Trailer

01:09 Introduction

02:45 Wade Foster's Journey: From Missouri to Zapier

08:14 Building Zapier: Challenges and Successes

22:40 Navigating Unconventional Business Strategies

25:48 Innovative Practices for Remote Teams

31:56 AI Integration and Future Prospects

Episode 008 of Between Two Founders: Join Jeff as he sits down with Siqi Chen, CEO and co-founder of Runway, to explore a journey that spans gaming, virtual reality, and B2B SaaS, culminating in a mission to make finance teams 10x more efficient through AI and design.

Siqi shares why the most powerful products amplify human intelligence rather than replace it, how design principles from consumer tech can simplify even the most complex systems, and how he is building what he calls an “Ironman suit for finance teams.”

Tune in now to hear why Siqi Chen believes, "For every intellectual task, for sure, the AI will do a better job of it."

00:00 Trailer

01:20 Introduction to Siqi Chen and His Journey

02:36 Early Career and NASA Experience

07:38 First Venture and Facebook Platform Success

29:23 Building Accounting Software from Scratch

31:23 The Role of Excel in Financial Planning

37:17 The Future of AI in Finance