In this deeply reflective episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Bobby Triplett—former music pastor turned real estate leader—to unpack the raw truths of fatherhood, friendship, and personal growth.

From his early dreams of rock stardom to becoming a key figure in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) and BTR (Build-to-Rent) real estate space, Bobby shares a powerful journey marked by faith, resilience, and emotional intelligence. Through honest conversation and moments of laughter, the trio explores the challenges of raising boys, balancing nurturing and discipline, and maintaining identity through career transitions.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating the intersection of parenting, career, leadership, and manhood. Whether you're a father, mentor, or simply on a path of personal development, you’ll walk away with practical insights and a renewed perspective on life, values, and relationships.

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What happens when three leaders drop the filter and get real about culture, politics, leadership, and what it actually takes to grow a business that lasts?

In Episode 12, Darren Williams—President of Portico Property Management—joins hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation that starts with cigars and ends with hard truths about America, company culture, emotional intelligence, and how to lead without ego.

You’ll hear:

Why culture beats strategy—every single time

How emotional intelligence shapes great leadership

What Japan can teach America about systems, crime, and civility

Honest takes on immigration, politics, and patriotism

Why the moderate middle is where real change happens

How to protect company culture as you scale

Whether you’re in property management, entrepreneurship, or just sick of echo chambers, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you thinking deeper.

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She grew up on construction sites in the Chicago suburbs — now she’s leading one of the most powerful vendor ops teams in the Single-Family Rental (SFR) industry.

In this episode of Between 2 Hats, we sit down with Stacy Lusader, Senior Manager of Vendor Experience at FirstKey Homes, for a raw, unfiltered conversation about leadership, hiring, and the human side of the SFR and real estate game.

From a legacy family construction business to a national role in Single-Family Rental operations, Stacy brings decades of insight and fire to an industry that’s changing fast.

We talk about:
💥 Contractors aren’t vendors — they’re partners.
💥 Leadership isn’t about control — it’s about trust.
💥 And if your team isn’t growing, you’re doing it wrong.

Whether you're in SFR, construction, vendor management, or just want to hear from a badass woman rewriting the rules — this real estate podcast is for you.

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