In this episode, Jared Johnson sits down with Nadav Ben-Chanoch, a former tech operator turned small business acquirer, to unpack why more founders are skipping startups and choosing to buy real businesses instead.

Nadav shares how his experience in Silicon Valley shaped his approach to deal-making, why he walked away from the traditional venture path, and what he’s learned transitioning from building software to operating a brick-and-mortar business. Whether you’re exploring search, planning your first acquisition, or just trying to understand where the market is headed—this conversation offers a grounded look at what it really takes to own and operate outside the startup bubble.

[00:06:15] — Why Nadav left tech to pursue small business ownership

[00:11:45] — What operators misunderstand about buying brick-and-mortar

[00:18:20] — How misalignment around working capital can derail deals

[00:25:10] — Why buying a business isn’t the shortcut people think it is

[00:32:00] — Advice for tech founders considering acquisition entrepreneurship

[00:37:40] — What Nadav looks for in deals—and what he avoids

[00:41:15] — The mindset shift from “builder” to “owner”

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In this episode, Jared Johnson sits down with Michael Seitz, CEO & Chairman of EarthWise Pet, for a wide-ranging conversation on entrepreneurship, franchising, M&A strategy, and what it really takes to build and scale a brand in a mission-driven industry.

Michael shares how growing up in a family business shaped his values, how almost becoming a dentist led him back to his entrepreneurial roots, and the hard-earned lessons behind buying 42 stores in a single day. Whether you’re a first-time buyer, seasoned operator, or just curious about franchising from the inside out—this one is packed with insight.

[00:07:30] — The power of asking better questions early in your career

[00:13:00] — Why unit-level economics are the heartbeat of franchising

[00:23:00] — Why buyers need to focus on trailing 12 months, not just historical EBITDA

[00:29:00] — What EarthWise looks for in new franchisees (hint: it’s not just the money)

[00:33:30] — Advice to 20-somethings considering their first acquisition

[00:36:00] — The #1 mistake most sellers make—and how to avoid it

[00:38:00] — What really keeps a founder going after decades in the game

• Learn more about EarthWise Pet: earthwisepetfranchise.com
• Find Michael on LinkedIn: Michael Seitz, CEO

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In this episode of the Before You Buy or Sell a Business podcast, host Jared Johnson welcomes Mark Fleming, a specialist in business acquisitions and co-founder of Owner Actions.

Mark shares his journey from a background steeped in finance and trading to becoming an essential guide for investors at the critical 'search' stage of business acquisition. He emphasizes the challenging yet crucial initial phase of the acquisition process, a step often overlooked by many who are eager to jump straight to the deal-making stage.

The conversation delves into pivotal topics including the significance of selecting the right business based on industry experience, the unforeseen hurdles in business acquisition, and Mark's strategic use of reps and warranties insurance to mitigate risks.

They also explore the current economic climate, touching on the implications of tariffs and interest rates on small businesses. Mark underscores the importance of persevering through economic fluctuations and maintaining focus on core business values like customer service and cash management. The dialogue culminates in forward-looking insights on what buyers should anticipate in the evolving landscape of business acquisition.

HIGHLIGHTS

• The search stage in business acquisition is the most challenging yet vital, demanding more diligence than the deal-making phase.
• Specialized industry skills and management experience significantly determine success in business acquisition.
• Implementing strong accounts receivable practices and managing cash flow are crucial in the initial months post-acquisition.
• Reps and warranties insurance can safeguard against misrepresentations during business acquisitions.
• Tariffs and economic policies can impact interest rates and business dynamics but can be navigated with focused strategies.

You can get in touch with Mark at https://www.owneractions.com/

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In this episode of the "Before You Buy or Sell a Business Podcast," host Jared Johnson welcomes Jason Boehning, an HVAC industry professional who has successfully acquired two businesses over a short period.

The discussion delves into the intricacies of acquiring businesses, highlighting Jason's strategic mindset and the unique competitive advantage he enjoys due to his engineering background. This episode offers listeners invaluable insights into the pragmatic approach Jason adopted, which not only involved leveraging his skills but also focusing on relationship-building and effective transition management.

Jason's journey started from a small Texas town and led him to Texas A&M University, where he studied mechanical engineering. His diverse career path in the HVAC industry served as a solid foundation when he made the decisive move to business ownership. Through engaging dialogue, this episode presents a comprehensive look at his process of acquiring and managing HVAC businesses.

Key themes explored include the importance of having a solid plan, the advantages of maintaining good relationships with employees during acquisitions, and the strategic insights driving successful business growth in a competitive market.

• Jason leveraged his HVAC design and engineering knowledge to strategically acquire two businesses, positioning himself effectively in a competitive market.
• Key factors in successful acquisitions include having a solid operational and financial plan and maintaining focus on long-term goals amidst a dynamic business environment.
• The importance of maintaining key employees during a business transition, as these employees often hold valuable customer relationships and operational knowledge.
• Acquiring existing customer bases through business purchases can be a more effective growth strategy than relying on extensive digital marketing efforts.
• Managing working capital efficiently is critical in the HVAC sector due to varying cash flow cycles, especially when dealing with commercial clients.

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Navigating the intricate world of buying and selling businesses can be challenging. Understanding due diligence, valuations, and the right mindset is crucial.

In this episode of the "Before You Buy or Sell a Business" podcast, host Jared Johnson engages Rosco Graves from Polaxis in a deep dive into the nuances of buying and selling businesses.

They discuss the pertinent steps necessary for a successful business acquisition or sale, including crucial due diligence phases. With Jared’s experience as a lender and Rosco’s corporate and entrepreneurial background, the episode exposes valuable strategies to enhance transaction success rates.

Rosco shares his journey from the high echelons of corporate finance to his role in supporting small and medium-sized business owners. This transition equipped him with practical insights into the diligence, financial modeling, and strategic planning required for business transactions.

Rosco and Jared then explore the importance of conducting a quality of earnings report in determining the true value of a business. They outline how even seemingly small improvements in a business's operation or financial status can significantly affect its sale price and buyer interest.

• Conducting thorough due diligence can prevent costly errors in business transactions.
• A quality of earnings report is crucial for accurately assessing a business’s financial health.
• Sellers should proactively prepare their businesses to attract quality buyers and higher valuations.
• Understanding your personal capabilities in business operations can guide a more successful acquisition.
• Building a reliable team of advisors is essential for navigating the complexities of business transactions.

For more information about Rosco, visit: https://polaxis.co/

This episode of the "Before You Buy or Sell a Business" podcast delivers a wealth of information for prospective buyers and sellers aiming to navigate the market efficiently and effectively. For more in-depth insights and practical advice, don't miss listening to the full episode, and subscribe to our series for more valuable content.

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"The more parties you get investing in your deal, the less of a chance you're going to buy a bad deal."

In Part 2 of this two-part episode of the Before You Buy or Sell a Business podcast, I talk with SBA loan borrowers about the business they end up buying: an HVAC business.

From initial deal discovery to negotiating terms and finalizing the purchase, this episode provides a thorough examination of each step potential buyers should consider.

This detailed discussion underscores the importance of due diligence and strategic partnership in acquiring a business. Key topics include the evaluation of working capital, understanding the seller's perspective, and leveraging relationships with financial backers like the Search Investment Group.

Pete candidly shares lessons learned, emphasizing the immense value of patience and discipline when analyzing potential acquisitions. Garrett adds depth with his focus on maintaining a conservative approach to financial evaluations, ensuring any deal remains sustainable in long-term.

Key Takeaways:

✅ Involve multiple stakeholders in your deal-making process to avoid poor investments.

✅ Due diligence is crucial in understanding the nuances of potential acquisition, including financial and operational dynamics.

✅ Building relationships with experienced mentors or strategic investors can provide crucial guidance and support.

✅ Negotiating working capital is essential to ensure a smooth transition and stability post-acquisition.

✅ Approach acquisitions with a mindset of adaptability and readiness to tackle operational challenges.

CHAPTERS

0:00 | Introduction

4:52 | Balancing Fairness and Satisfaction in Real Estate Transactions

12:54 | Navigating Working Capital and Cash Flow in Small Businesses

16:17 | The Importance of Due Diligence in Business Acquisitions

17:30 | Deal Structuring Challenges

20:27 | The Importance of Fair Bidding and Building Lender Relationships

23:14 | Building Trust and Navigating Investment Challenges in Business Ventures

27:05 | The Challenges and Rewards of Acquiring and Operating a Business

31:21 | The Adventure of Owning an HVAC Business

In this two-part episode of the @beforeyoubuyorsellabusiness I sit down with my borrowers, Peter Hucal and Garrett Johnson, two dynamic entrepreneurs from Wharton who embarked on a journey of Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA).

Their diverse backgrounds across engineering, project management, social impact, and consultancy have uniquely positioned them for success in the acquisition space. Tune in as they share authentic insights into their professional path and elaborate on the intricacies of navigating such an acquisition in today's market.

Embarking upon a 13-month journey, Peter and Garrett discuss their extensive search for the right business, sharing the trials, errors, and eventual triumphs they encountered along the way. By focusing on core business fundamentals rather than specific industries, they outline how their open mindset towards geographical and sector-based opportunities guided their success. Alongside key strategies for maintaining broker relationships and insights on necessary interpersonal skills, the duo candidly dissects the realities of acquisition, dispelling myths of ease perpetuated by various online narratives.

Stay tuned for part two of this episode for what business Peter and Garrett settled on and the strategic partners they sought out.

Key Takeaways:

• Adopting a flexible strategy in ETA, being open to any industry or geography, can enhance the success rate.
• Building strong relationships with brokers is crucial and can lead to greater success in finding suitable deals.
• The process of finding and acquiring a business is complex and often requires resilience in face of numerous setbacks.

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In this episode of "Before You Buy or Sell a Business," host Jared Johnson welcomes Conner Young, co-founder of Kairo Data. The conversation centers around Kairo Data's innovative platform, designed to streamline the process of finding and acquiring small to medium-sized businesses. Conner shares his team's journey from traditional wealth management to solving complex acquisition challenges through proprietary databases and off-market deals.

Conner provides an in-depth tour of Kairo Data's features, explaining how they aggregate business listings from various sources into a single, convenient platform. Users can refine their searches to match their specific acquisition criteria, create custom alerts, and even manage campaigns for off-market leads.

For those looking to outsource the initial stages of their search, Kairo Data offers comprehensive campaign services. The discussion also delves into key considerations for both buyers and sellers, emphasizing transparency and strategic engagement.

• Efficient Acquisition Tools: Kairo Data aggregates listings from multiple sources, streamlining the search process for potential buyers.
• Custom Alerts and Filters: Users can set up detailed alerts and customized buy boxes to focus their searches more effectively.
• Campaign Services: Kairo Data offers an end-to-end solution for buyers, handling outreach and initial vetting of potential sellers.
• Transparent Engagement: Both buyers and sellers are encouraged to be transparent and organized during the negotiation process to ensure a smoother transaction.
• Affordable Access: The platform provides valuable tools at a competitive price, making it accessible to a broad range of buyers.

• Kairo Data Website
• Email: team@kairodata.com

Enjoy this insightful episode to explore how Kairo Data is revolutionizing the acquisition!

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