It's a Maddie & Emily chat this week.

Maddie is loving (despite calling the colour urine-esque) the White Gate Co White Blend and if you're in Tassie go book and wine shopping at Five Leaves Left.

Emily was creating new neural pathways and happened upon a great side-street garden stall. Win!

We're lamenting the end of cherry season, but enjoying choc-covered cherries from a local stall.

We're rolling (metaphorically, not literally) in peastraw and alpaca poo.

Lettuce is ON!

Emily has has success with a poppy (yes, just the one), and it's reminding her of her grandfather. Maddie's hollyhocks have popped and it's reminding her of her grandmother.

Emily is recommending Death and the Gardener, and Maddie is recommending Recipe Tin Eats' scone recipe but a shout out to Lady Flo's Pumpkin Scones too.

Jo Thompson is one of the UK's most celebrated garden designers, known for creating deeply romantic, naturalistic gardens that feel timeless, layered and full of atmosphere. Her projects span the UK and abroad - from wildflower meadows in the English countryside to rooftop terraces in New York and coastal gardens in Italy and Brazil.

She's a multiple award-winner at the RHS Chelsea Flower Show, with several Gold medals to her name, and her designs - ranging from private landscapes to meaningful public projects - are widely admired.

Beyond her design practice, she's a respected teacher, author and voice in the gardening world, sharing her knowledge through books, lectures and her much-loved newsletter, The Gardening Mind. Jo's work reminds us that gardens can be both art and refuge – spaces that connect us to beauty, memory and the natural world.

Before we get to Jo's chat, Maddie and Emily are talking about:

• Agapanthas (sorry!)
• Snakes
• Wildflower Meadows
• Emma Bowen of Rising Farm
• Sea salt and olive oil on vanilla icecream

Then we get into glorious Jo's chat and we cover a lot. Highlights include:

• Glasshouse Project
• Women in horitculture / at the Chelsea Flower Show
• Designing a garden
• Trypophobia
  
• Damsen Cocktail

Jo lists a bunch of her favourite roses:

Wild Rover
Meg - climber
The Lark Ascending
Felicite-Perpetue
Adélaide d'Orléans
Ghislaine de feligonde
Blush Noisette
Bengal Crimsen
Mutablis
Gertrude JekyllMILsures
Olivia Rose Austin
Ispahan

We're baaaaaack! And with a slightly new format. We're trying out one week where we release our chat (longer version), and the following week we'll release our guest interview. It means we can get episodes out weekly. We'll trial it and see.

We've missed the podcast so it's awesome to be back.

Emily has knocked it out of the park with a delicious mulberry bramble (gin, mulberry cordial from our friends' tree, blackberries, lime).

Having taken more than two months off, we have so much to chat about.

Including, but not limited to:

Seed saving - calendula and platypus spinach,

Drying hydrangeas thanks to Anya The Garden Fairy

We're talking about Moths - they need a rebrand.

The Almanac, Cool Climate Sowing Guide

Alnwick Garden and Millie Fleur's Poison Garden (by Christy Mandin).

Aaaand lilacs, daphne, feverfew, calendula, compost bays.

Catch up next week when we interview (omg!) Jo Thompson!