In this episode, recorded at 100 Mile Brewing Co. in Tempe, hosts Andrew Bauman and Rob Fullmer are joined by Camila Alarcon, General Counsel for the Arizona Craft Brewers Guild. The trio navigates the complex "gray areas" of alcohol legislation, from the historical evolution of smoking bans to modern-day disputes over restaurant food ratios and underage drinking enforcement. They provide an inside look at the administrative hurdles of liquor licensing and a controversial proposed ordinance in Tempe aimed at preventing drink tampering.

The following discussions do not constitute legal advice! The listener will understand that these issues are complex and vary on business model, locale, and other highly specific matters that are best discussed with a liquor attorney/agent. If you filed your license as your agent, that person is you when it probably should be a qualified liquor attorney. Contact your guild for a referral.

Licensing and Interim Permits: The group discusses the technical fears regarding liquor license renewals and the five-year felony rule, emphasizing how administrative filing errors can jeopardize a business's ability to carry over employees.

High Tops vs. Restaurants: A deep dive into the "Series 12" restaurant license requirements, where agents may audit a business based on its furniture (high-top tables) or whether they make their own ranch dressing from scratch to determine if it is truly a restaurant or a bar.

Tempe's Anti-Roofie Ordinance: The hosts discuss a proposed Tempe law that would require bars to have drink covers and drug-detection products on hand to prevent "roofing".

The Tempe Tavern Incidents: A breakdown of the legal process following two major raids at Tempe Tavern, where hundreds of underage individuals were arrested. The discussion covers the use of ID scanning technology as a potential legal defense.

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Andrew has a casual conversation with Misty and Kase Limmeroth of High Tanks Brewing in Wellton, AZ.

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What does a global creative networking group have to do with the success of a local brewery? Andrew explores his recent deep dive into "Creative Mornings" and how innovation beyond the taproom is essential for navigating the industry's complex legislative and entrepreneurial landscape . Meanwhile, Rob tracks the latest local movements, from a Phoenix favorite earning a prestigious "Cask Mark" certification to massive taproom expansions currently under construction in Gilbert and Mesa.

The duo also tackles the "soft" side of Arizona parking culture and why urban planning might be the silent killer of a good happy hour . To wrap things up, they look at the latest data on Gen Z and Millennial drinking habits—are the kids really alright, or are they just drinking differently than the generations before them?

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Dive into the changing tides of the craft beer world! Rob and Andrew discuss major shifts, including a legendary brewing institute moving from Chicago to Montreal , and the closure of a foundational craft brewery like Rogue. They consider the challenges of losing educational resources like Siebel , and the consequences of factors like limited international tourism on the U.S. market.

Locally, get the scoop on a motivated "fire sale" for professional brewing equipment from Ranch Hand Brewing and new offerings from Arizona breweries. The hosts also taste and compare two prickly pear sours from Roses by the Stairs and Arizona Wilderness , and a Superstition West Coast-style IPA. Plus, a focused discussion on the looming federal time clock that could impact the legality of hemp THC beverages.

Rob begins relating his trip to Asheville, but the rest of the story will have to wait for Part 2 S4E172.

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Mentioned in the Show

Geographic Locations, Regions, and Countries

Arizona, Asheville, Brevard, Canada, Chicago, China, Concho Arizona, Dallas, Davis, Grand Canyon, Minnesota, Montreal, Newport, New York State, New Zealand, North Carolina, Oregon, Portland, San Diego, Vermont, Willcox, Yosemite

Breweries, Cideries, and Bars

Arizona Wilderness, Cohesion, Dark Sky, Ranch Hand Brewing, Fate, Green Dragon Taproom, Greenwood Brewing, Griffin and Sphinx, Jester King, McMenamins, Mile High (Brewing), Mother Road, Oro Brewing Company, Pinnacle Brewing, Roses by the Stairs, Rogue Brewing, Sierra Nevada Brewing, Superstition Meadery, Uncle Bear's, White Mountain Brewing, Widmer Brothers, Wren House

People

Andrew Bauman, Rob Fullmer, Brenda Fullmer, Brian Grossman, Sebbie Buhler, Frank Lloyd Wright, Garrett Oliver, Hazel (dog), John Holl, John Maier, Josh Johnson, Ken Grossman, Michael Jackson, Randy Mosher, Ray Daniels, Sara Hagerty, Taylor Swift, Tommy Arthur, Wayne Wambles

Organizations, Events, and Specific Products

Arizona Craft Brewers Guild, Cactus Juice, Celebration (IPA), Chiricahua Poultry Ranch, Coors, Gose, National Homebrew conference (NHC), Jolly Rancher, Michael J Jackson Fund (MJJF, Pack Tech, Siebel Brewing Institute, Celly Drippings, MLB Spring Training, Superstition West Coast style IPA, Thanksgiving, Velvet Underground (record), Lallemand Yeast, Rahr Malting

This week, dive deep into the emotional and financial realities of life after the Guild. With one host no longer officially employed by the AZCBG, the conversation explores the awkward shift in tone, new roles, and the challenges of maintaining a platform dedicated to Arizona's breweries.

After learning he would not be continuing his employment with the Guild due to a lack of funds, Rob Fullmer took a trip to Germany to attend the last weekend of Oktoberfest. Immediately following his return, he traveled to Denver to attend the Great American Beer Festival (GABF). The transition was difficult; he confessed that he is struggling with not having the job and still thinks about it frequently. He noticed a personal change, beginning to buy more hoodies as he no longer felt the need to be in the spotlight. Rob also visited the Navajo Nation for three or four days, noting a lack of beer available in that area.

Despite the change in his professional status, he continued to participate in the podcast, motivated by his belief in the Guild's mission of supporting and celebrating Arizona breweries. He mentioned future plans, specifically to go to the Celly Drippings event in North Carolina from November 21st through the 24th.

How will the show move forward? Structurally, Rob proposed a shift in roles: he will focus on "just doing the producing" and wishes for Andrew to take on a "bigger role" in the hosting and content, particularly by "doing a lot of interviewing". They agreed the show should feature more guests moving forward. Rob suggested the long-term vision was always for the podcast to grow into an "Arizona beer frontier being sort of a network" with more shows.

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Disclaimer: This podcast episode of Arizona Beer Frontier has been transcribed and captioned using AI native to Premier Pro. The podcast summary has also been generated by Gemini AI. Additionally, some podcast artwork has been created with the assistance of MidJourney. The Arizona Craft Brewers Guild is committed to providing accurate and accessible content for all listeners. If you have any questions or concerns about the use of AI in our podcast production, please contact us.

Mentioned in the show:

• Geographic Locations, Regions, and Countries: Japan, Denver, Germany, Munich, Sedona, Prescott, Cottonwood, Jerome, Clarksdale, New Berlin, Milwaukee, Buckeye, Navajo Nation, Monument Valley, Bluff, Utah, Moab, Apache County, Saint John's, Concho, Fort Mohave Brewing, Colorado, Europe, Portland, Oregon, Belgium, North Carolina, Chico, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Atlanta, North Carolina, Arizona

• Breweries, Cideries, and Bars: Lake Pleasant Brewing, OHSO, Russian River, Lazy G Brewing, Wren House, Mile High Beer Project, Granite Mountain, Black Hole, Lonesome Valley, Copper Kettle, Prescott Brewing Company, Rickety Cricket, Barley House, Park Plaza, Belfry Brewing, Oak Creek Brewing, Base Camp, Lumberyard Brewing Company, Sedona Beer Co, Smelter Town Brewing, Verde Brewing Company, Angels Trumpet Ale House, Pueblo Vida Brewing, White Mountain Brewing Company, Below the Rim, Six Bird Cider, Dragoon Brewing, Sierra Nevada Brewing

• People: Dustin, Tyler, John, Megan, Sean, Chad, Brenda, Travis, Carly, Brady, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Charlie Papazian, David DeLorenzo, Scooter Grossman, Ken Grossman, Joseph, Lisa

• Organizations, Events, and Specific Products: Arizona Craft Brewers Guild, DLLC, TTB (Tax and Trade Bureau), Arizona Craft Beer Awards, Arizona Strong Beer festival, Great American Beer Festival (GABF), Oktoberfest, Arizona Beer Frontier, Brewers Association, AFMA, ALBA, Bauman Hop Farm, Bauman Cider, Yavapai College, Brown Bag Burger, Pilsner Urquell, This Isn't That, DHL, SNAP, Craft Culture Draft Solutions, University of Arizona, Sierra Nevada Celly Drippins

Andrew and Rob tackle the concept of "Swedish Death Cleaning" , leading to the unearthing of a treasure trove of vintage beers, including a decade-old Westvleteren and a forgotten Dogfish Head Noble Rot.
Tune in to hear which aged beer is a win and which is a "failure".

The hosts also dive into the politics and complexities of beer competitions, from the Great American Beer Festival to local awards ceremonies, sharing insider tips on what makes a great beer judge. Finally, they cover the local awards moving to Mesa's The Post and Rob's solo travel plans for Oktoberfest in Munich.

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Disclaimer: This podcast episode of Arizona Beer Frontier has been transcribed and captioned using AI native to Premier Pro. The podcast summary has also been generated by Gemini AI. Additionally, some podcast artwork has been created with the assistance of MidJourney. The Arizona Craft Brewers Guild is committed to providing accurate and accessible content for all listeners. If you have any questions or concerns about the use of AI in our podcast production, please contact us.

Mentioned on the Show:

People: Doc Osborne, Chuck Noll, Stu Stewart, Alice Waters, Garrett Oliver, Ed Sipos, John, Senator Kavanaugh, Jay Wilson, Kevin Holsapple, Brenda, Paul, John Buford, Jeremy DeConcini, Chelsea, Andrew Bauman, Rob Fullmer

Places: Mendocino, United States, La Grand-Place, Brussels, Phoenix, San Francisco, Arizona, Grand Canyon, North Rim, Paris, Mesa, Tempe, Madrid, Munich, Denver, Iowa, Grand Central Station

Organizations/Companies: Iowa Craft Brewers Guild, ASU, Arizona Agenda, the Arizona Republic, WPA, Papago Brewing, Dogfish Head, Saddle Mountain, Fry's, New York State Brewers Association, Arizona Heritage Museum

Events/Brands/Products/Publications: GABF, Coca-Cola, Westvleteren, Belgian Beer Weekend, The Oxford Companion to Beer Brewing Arizona, Pen Slinger, Plex servers, Raspberry Pi, Bluetooth, 3M, Ergo Audrey, Domino's, ChatGPT, Dungeons and Dragons, Old Rasputin, Noble Rot, Orange Blossom, Hop Snob, Oktoberfest, Gilda's, Neon Garden, Cornett, McDonald's, Pumpkin Pie Hole, Blu rays, CDs, LPs