"And What Else?" – Rewiring the Habit of Fixating on Pain | Ep140

And What Else isn’t just a question — it’s a powerful nervous system tool for shifting how we experience our world.

In this episode of Wholehearted Loving, Georgianna and Steph share stories of using this simple practice to interrupt old patterns of compounding pain and avoiding discomfort. Georgianna tells the story of a gym session where she asked for deep pressure support to create a nervous system reset. Steph reflects on how numbing and spiraling kept her from actually feeling her feelings, and how “and what else” builds real capacity to sit with what’s hard — without being swallowed by it.

Together, they explore how to notice neutral or pleasant sensations alongside the difficult ones, why this practice grows awe for what’s possible, and how to reclaim even a single breath of relief as a victory.

Discover how:

• “And what else” interrupts spirals and creates new options

• Pleasant sensations expand your capacity for the hard ones

• Growing micro-moments of ease rewires your nervous system for resilience

"Like finding gold." – Alma W.

"The best therapy I've ever done for myself." – Sanjeev B.

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Georgianna & Steph