Steve wonders what the difference between “normal” and “not normal” is. His friend Desi drops by to help him out!

Dr. Desiree Jones is an Assistant Professor of Psychology and director of the SHINE Lab (Stigma, Human Interaction, and Neurodivergent Experiences) at the University of Maryland. She received her PhD in Psychological Sciences from the University of Texas at Dallas. She was named in the Forbes 30 Under 30: Science list for 2023. Her research focuses on neurodivergence, stigma, and identity.

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Reema swings by Steve’s window to share what she’s learned about money and why it’s so emotionally awkward.

Reema is the host of the Marketplace podcast, This is Uncomfortable. The show focuses on life and how money messes with it. Reema is an experienced audio journalist with an emphasis on personal finance. She reported in Turkey in 2018 as an ICFJ Bringing the World Home Fellow. Previously, she reported on education policy for North Carolina Public Radio as a Fletcher Fellow.

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Steve checks in with his tech whiz friend, Paul Ford, to share his hopes and concerns about artificial intelligence.

Paul Ford is the co-founder of Aboard, an AI startup. Previously, he was an advisor to the White House Office of Digital Strategy during the Obama Administration. He has written about technology at leading publications from The New Yorker and The New York Times Magazine to MIT Technology Review.

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