Agentic AI: Hype, Hope, or Real Risk?

Andy Grotto (founder and director of the Program on Geopolitics, Technology and Governance at Stanford University) puts it plainly: there's a 5% chance that within the next 10 years, AI could rule over humans. That number might sound small, but it's enough to take seriously.

He joins host Lieuwe Jan Koning and guest Davis Hake (Senior Director for Cybersecurity at Venable) as they dive into the technology, governance, and risks behind autonomous AI. From system trustworthiness to liability, and market incentives to regulation, they break down what’s already happening and what needs to happen next.
They also discuss how humans will struggle to validate AI outcomes in areas where AI excels, why thoughtful deployment is key, and what it means to be “quick, but not in a hurry.”

Key topics:
✅ How to adopt your security and governance to the use of AI
🧠 Why applying existing IT risk frameworks is a smart starting point
⚖️ How to balance regulation, trust, and innovation
Can your organization keep up with AI that moves faster than human oversight?