Do those who denigrate Australia's past hurt Australia's present?

On this week’s Afternoon Light Georgina Downer speaks with Tony Abbott to discuss his new book, Australia: A History. An antidote to the 'Black armband' view of our national story, which doesn't downplay the darker aspects of our past, but highlights the overwhelming good. A good we might expect to find if we appreciate the nation that we live in today, and want to understand how it came to be so that we may be better placed to preserve it.

Tony Abbott served as Australia's 28th prime minister and was the member for Warringah in the Australian parliament between 1994 and 2019. He is a Rhodes Scholar and the author of four books: The Minimal Monarchy, How to Win the Constitutional War, Battlelines, and most recently Australia: A History.

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Do Australians still agree on enough fundamental values to hold society together?

On this week’s Afternoon Light Georgina Downer speaks with Perter Kurti from the Centre for Independent Studies, to ponder how Australia's democratic and social cohesion can survive our increasing pluralism and historically high immigration rate. Exploring whether there remain enough common threads to bind us together as a nation.

Reverend Peter Kurti is Director of the Culture, Prosperity & Civil Society program at the Centre for Independent Studies and an Adjunct Professor at the University of Notre Dame. He is the author or editor of a number of books and has written extensively about issues of religion, liberty, and civil society in Australia. He appears frequently as a columnist and as a commentator on television and radio. Peter is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts and an ordained minister in the Anglican Church of Australia. In June of 2025 he released The ties that bind: Reconciling value pluralism and national identity.

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In this special summer series of the Afternoon Light podcast you can enjoy the presentations delivered at our November 2025 conference entitled ‘Menzies and the British Commonwealth of Nations’. This seventh & final episode features Paul Brown's paper 'Sons of Empire: Menzies, Downer and their response to Britain joining the EEC', Andrew Kemp's paper 'A very different world: Robert Menzies, Harold Macmillan, and the end of Greater Britain', & Lucas McLennan's paper 'Menzies and Diefenbaker: Navigating the post-British World'.

Paul Brown is a published author awarded a Bachelor of Arts (History Honours) at the University of New South Wales for a thesis on the Balfour Declaration and Palestine 1917 and a Doctorate from the University of Wollongong for his study of Alexander Downer’s Formative Family Policy Influences. He has also contributed to various publications including the chapter ‘The Progressive Conservatism of Alexander Downer’ in Greg Melleuish’s study Liberalism and Conservatism and ‘Alick Downer’s Immigration Program’ in Zachary Gorman’s The Menzies Ascendency.

Andrew Kemp is a Melbourne-based writer and a former economist at the Commonwealth Treasury and the Department of Treasury and Finance in Victoria. He has written for the Australian Financial Review, contributed a chapter to Unity in Autonomy: A Federal History of the Founding of the Liberal Party, and recently launched an Australian history themed Substack titled ‘Australia Past and Present’.

Lucas McLennan works as a Senior History Teacher. He completed an Honours Degree in History and teaching qualifications at Monash University and recently completed a Master of Education from the University of Melbourne. His Masters thesis was on the Education policy of the first Anglican Bishop in Australia, William Grant Broughton, while his earlier Honours thesis examined Australia's compulsory military training schemes between Federation and the First World War. He has a strong interest in Australia's political, religious, and cultural history.

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