Michael Chaskalson has a new book out! When we did an earlier podcast in April 2025 Michael was busy writing - and now the book is here.

It is such a vital topic - an exploration of moving from mindfulness to wakefulness, with all of the implication and applications that has to offer.

I loved doing this episode with Michael - enjoy!

I worked with Karen Blincoe when she led Schumacher College at Dartington, Devon. Karen invited me to join her, and Programme Director Toni Spencer, in co-creating and facilitating the Schumacher Certificate in Sustainable Education.

We had a wonderful group from all over the world, and it was a joy to work with Karen on that programme.

Karen has done so many rich and wonderful things, in the UK, Denmark and beyond. This is a lovely conversation, and I do hope you enjoy it.

Karen has provided some links to her work and to references she makes during the conversation, and these are below.

Links and Credits:

Photo: SILVERS: Yolanta C. Siu

https://www.schumachercollege.org/

www.thesilvers.dk

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-10023-9

https://www.karenblincoe.dk/

Professor Patricia Riddell is a neuroscientist. She teaches and consults widely, and is a coach and author too. She spends a lot of her time dispelling the many airport management book myths and overclaims about brains and how they work.

Tricia brings science to centre stage, helping leaders to get clearer on what we do know, what we don’t know, and why each of these matters. She does all of this in a wonderfully clear and engaging way, making brain science practical and applicable to leaders and coaches.

I loved our conversation and Tricia’s generosity in sharing her links and inspirations too. I do hope you enjoy this one as much as I did.

Links:

University profiles

https://www.henley.ac.uk/people/professor-patricia-riddell

https://www.reading.ac.uk/pcls/staff/patricia-riddell

NeuroEffective Leadership book

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9781003534563/neuroeffective-leadership-patricia-riddell-ian-mcdermott

Neuroscience of Leadership Coaching book

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/neuroscience-of-leadership-coaching-9781472911124/

The course I run with Ian McDermott at ITS on Applied Neuroscience

https://itsnlp.com/applied-neuroscience-programme/