A Fire Runs Through All Things: Susan Murphy on How We Can Meet the Climate Crisis

In this podcast episode, Vanessa chats with Susan Murphy, the author of "A Fire Runs Through All Things, Zen Koans for Facing the Climate Crisis." Susan discusses the inspiration behind her book, stemming from her experiences during the devastating 2019-2020 Australian wildfires. She relates these experiences to Zen teachings and practice with koans, illustrating how these notions can help navigate the current ecological and climate crisis.

The discussion includes the impact of community in crisis situations, with Susan emphasising the importance of communal support during the fires and the regenerative nature of the affected landscapes. The conversation further explores the interconnectedness of all beings and the concept of "not knowing," a state of open-mindedness and curiosity essential in Zen practice , as well as in facing global challenges.

Susan also touches on her earlier book, 'Minding the Earth, Mending the World,' noting the changing public perception of climate change over the decade. The conversation concludes with Susan sharing the impact of indigenous wisdom on her thinking and the importance of reconciling with the Earth to heal various societal rifts.