A Conversation with Omer Bartov on Genocide, Israel, and Zionism

Join Avi as he interviews Omer Bartov, the Dean's Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University. Bartov is both an Israeli and a Zionist, and one of the leading academic voices arguing that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza. They discuss whether Israel's conduct in Gaza is genocidal, strategies to prevent genocide, and what it means to be Zionist at a time when Israel is committing such unspeakable acts.

Some of Omer Bartov's Work:

Infamous NYT article making the case that Israel is committing genocide: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html

Pre-Order his new book on where Zionism went wrong: https://www.amazon.com/Israel-What-Wrong-Omer-Bartov/dp/0374618186/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=5hlOk&content-id=amzn1.sym.0fb2cce1-1ca4-439a-844b-8ad0b1fb77f7&pf_rd_p=0fb2cce1-1ca4-439a-844b-8ad0b1fb77f7&pf_rd_r=132-9869202-7528336&pd_rd_wg=CLJn0&pd_rd_r=bfbfd8ad-96ca-42e1-905b-56d50979acd6&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk