In this no-holds-barred, no-guest-needed episode, John Kitchens is joined by powerhouse leaders Al Stasek and Jay Kinder to dive into one of the biggest updates in the EXP Realty ecosystem: co-sponsorship.

They’re breaking down exactly what this means, why it’s a game-changing evolution in agent collaboration, and how it’s going to unleash a new wave of growth, momentum, and shared success for the real estate industry.

From the painful “figure it out” era of traditional brokerages to this new era of agent-centric innovation, the guys unpack why this shift matters for you—whether you’re brand new, scaling a team, or ready to partner at a higher level.

If you've ever felt stuck in a silo, on an island, or unsure how to scale your real estate business without burning out or burning bridges—this one’s for you.

• What co-sponsorship actually is and how it works in EXP’s new model.

• The difference between legacy silos and collaborative partnerships that drive real growth.

• How agents across org lines can now partner to add value—without losing revenue.

• Why EXP’s alignment of compensation and collaboration sets it apart from copycat models.

• The hidden truth about why traditional brokerages fail agents—and how EXP fixes that.

• Real-world results: Helping agents win more deals through done-for-you lead gen, AI, and systems.

• Why it’s always about the math—and why old-school splits no longer make sense.

• Jay shares his $40M+ revenue share insights and why he’s investing even more into agent success.

• The numbers behind growing a scalable real estate business without trading time for dollars.

• Why the new real estate game is about discipline over disruption.

• How to build real trust (authenticity x time) and why that’s EXP’s unfair advantage.

• Why people don’t join a brokerage—they join people who can make their lives better.

• Learn more & connect with John: johnkitchens.coach

• Join the movement: HoneyBadgerNation.com

• Interested in co-sponsorship or partnering? DM John, Al, or Jay on socials.

“You’re not joining a brokerage—you’re joining people who can change your life.” – Jay Kinder

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