5-4 x Debt Collective (Or How I Learned To Start Worrying and Hate SCOTUS)

It’s a double-crossover special with Michael from the illustrious 5-4 Podcast (a very beloved show to those of us here at JD) and Group Chat veteran Eleni Schirmer from the Debt Collective. They join Waleed to review how oral arguments went down in last month’s Supreme Court cases that could make or break Biden’s student loan cancellation initiative.

First, Michael & Waleed chat about how SCOTUS & minority rule keep getting in the way of us building a real multiracial democracy. Then Eleni joins to remind us how these cases got to the Supreme Court in the first place. Listen in to cringe at Roberts’ lawnmower commentary and stay to reflect on the way Biden is (or more notably…is not) exercising his executive authority.

5-4 is a show about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Michael is one of three lawyers who host the show and together they dissect a new case every week. Follow them here.

Eleni Schirmer is a journalist, author, activist, and member of the Debt Collective. You can read her latest New Yorker article (featuring our very own Jeremy Flood!!) here.

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