359. A Birder's Guide to Finding Hope In Uncertainty, Part 2

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Ever feel the ground shift under your feet and wonder how to keep standing? We sit down with author and pastor Courtney Ellis, author of Looking Up: A Birder's Guide to Hope Through Grief, to explore a surprising guide to hope: birds. From mockingbirds that remix the sounds of the neighborhood to sparrows that sing through storms, we unpack how creation itself teaches us to live with uncertainty, grieve honestly, and find rest without checking out of real life.

Courtney shares why not knowing can be merciful, especially when our brains crave a full map we’re not built to carry. We talk about spiritual practices that keep us present—taking the next small step, looking up instead of spiraling, and honoring the quiet work that rarely trends. Sparrows become a lens for ordinary dignity in a world chasing peacock shine and platform pressure. If you’ve ever felt invisible, her reminder that “God sees” lands like water in dry soil.

This is a warm, grounded conversation for anyone navigating grief, change, or the relentless hum of “do more.” If you’re craving presence over performance, mercy over mastery, and a faith sturdy enough for uncertain days, press play. If this resonates, share it with a friend, subscribe to new episodes, and leave a review to help others find our community.

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