24 - A Heat Pump, a Fridge, and a Minivan Walk into a Red Lobster...

From heat pump replacements to smart thermostats with speakers, Nate and John kick off this episode deep in the weeds of homeownership. But don't worry—they quickly pivot to more relevant matters: why nobody understands what marketing actually does, the surprising complexity of MarTech stacks, and whether meeting agendas are just corporate theater.

Along the way, they tackle Red Lobster's youngest CEO, the mystery of an unused gift card, and the revelation that parenting after 6pm is basically a DDoS attack. Plus: an accidental ADHD diagnosis that went unchecked for way too long.

Topics: Product management, marketing misconceptions, meeting culture, Red Lobster turnaround, parenting chaos, ADHD and auditory processing

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