# 21 – Still Standing with Matthew Ferrell

In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Matt sits down with longtime friend Matthew Ferrell—host of the podcast Matt Ferrell's Still Standing. The two reflect on nearly 20 years of friendship and dig into some heavy but important topics: substance abuse and recovery, the mission behind Matthew’s podcast, and the devastating loss of his brother Levi to suicide.

They also talk about what it means to be fathers, artists, and aging skateboarders trying to stay grounded and creative in a world that never stops shifting. It’s a conversation about resilience, honesty, and the strength it takes to keep moving forward.

This episode is a reminder that even in the hardest moments, you're not alone—and you can still stand.