2024: Inside the MAGA comeback

In the first of our summer special episodes, Mark Stone speaks to one of the three journalists that got the rarest access on the inside of the Trump, Biden and Harris campaigns as they each vied to become the 47th president of the United States.

In our interview, Tyler Pager, New York Times' White House correspondent, explains the MAGA revival as President Biden's bid for re-election collapsed. And, Tyler reveals the time he cold-called the former president. He picked up.

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