16. Fifth Dimensional Leadership with Ginny Clarke

In this deeply energising and wide-ranging conversation, Laura is joined by Ginny Clarke , conscious leadership expert, executive coach, former executive recruiter at Google and Spencer Stuart, and featured thought leader in Brené Brown’s book Strong Ground, to explore what it truly means to lead with consciousness, integrity, and soul.

Ginny shares her personal and professional evolution, from navigating loss and spiritual awakening to observing firsthand how leadership impacts human wellbeing inside some of the world’s most influential organizations. She speaks candidly about the urgent need to bring humanity, truth, and self-awareness back into the workplace and why conscious leadership is no longer optional, but essential.

Together, Laura and Ginny explore the deeper dimensions of leadership, not as a role or title, but as a way of being. This episode invites listeners to reconnect with their own agency, energy, and essence and to recognize that leadership begins not with managing others, but with remembering who you truly are.

What You’ll Hear In This Episode

• Ginny’s journey from executive recruiter to conscious leadership pioneer

• How personal loss became a catalyst for spiritual awakening and purpose

• Why only a small percentage of leaders are truly effective, and what’s missing

• The difference between ego-based leadership and soul-based leadership

• Why energy awareness is one of a leader’s greatest superpowers

• The urgency of reclaiming humanity in modern workplaces

Resources & LinksThe Five Dimensions of Conscious Leadership ™

Brené Brown’s Strong Ground - leadership and vulnerability research

Gallup leadership engagement research

Visit www.surrenderingtothesigns.com

Music Featured

The music in each episode of Surrendering to the Signs has been carefully curated to enhance the episode, below is a list of all tracks featured.

List of Music

Easy to Love - Saggie - Instrumental

Seven Raindrops -Yonnie Dror

Flower Duet Lakmé- Song by Hawkins

Birds - J. G