#155 - Why Relationships Matter More Than Rewards with Dr. Barry Prizant

In this replay episode, I'm thrilled to bring back one of the most impactful conversations I've ever had on the podcast — my interview with Dr. Barry Prizant, world-renowned speech-language pathologist and author of the groundbreaking book Uniquely Human. Our discussion gets to the heart of why the field of autism education is shifting away from compliance-based, behavior-focused models and toward approaches rooted in compassion, emotional regulation, and trusting relationships. Dr. Prizant shares powerful insights about: ✨ understanding autistic behaviors as meaningful human responses ✨ how storytelling has shaped his work and shaped Uniquely Human ✨ why reflective practice is essential in our classrooms ✨ and how listening to autistic voices is helping reshape "what works" in autism education We also dig into topics like echolalia, the SCERTS model, relationship-based intervention, non-speaking communication, and why honoring a child's intuition and individuality is more effective—and more humane—than rigid compliance. This conversation left me feeling inspired, energized, and hopeful about where autism education is heading… and I know it will do the same for you. Bio Barry M. Prizant, PhD, CCC-SLP is recognized as among the world's leading scholars on autism and as an innovator of respectful, person- and family-centered approaches. He is Director of Childhood Communication Services, Adjunct Professor of Communicative Disorders at the University of Rhode Island, and has fifty years of experience as an international consultant and researcher. Barry has published five books, 150 articles/chapters, and is co-author of The SCERTS Model, now being implemented internationally. He was a two-time featured presenter at the UN World Autism Awareness Day, with more than 1000 presentations internationally. Barry's book Uniquely Human: A Different Way of Seeing Autism (2022) is the best-selling book on autism since 2015, published in 26 languages and ranked by Book Authority as #1 of the "100 best books on autism of all time". Barry co-hosts a podcast, Uniquely Human: The Podcast, with his friend, Dave Finch, an autistic audio engineer. Dr. Barry Prizant's Links: Website: https://barryprizant.com/ Uniquely Human Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uniquely-human-the-podcast/id1532460901 Uniquely Human Book: https://amzn.to/4e5VWZN The Scerts Model Books: https://amzn.to/4kFpbF5 DRBI (Developmental Relationship-Based Intervention) Interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uniquely-human-the-podcast/id1532460901?i=1000711834231 Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN): https://autisticadvocacy.org/ Amy Laurent Ted Talk "Compliance Is Not The Goal": https://www.ted.com/talks/amy_laurent_compliance_is_not_the_goal_letting_go_of_control_and_rethinking_support_for_autistic_individuals?utm_campaign=tedspread&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=tedcomshare Thinking Person's Guide To Autism: https://thinkingautismguide.com/ David Finch Website: https://davidjfinch.com/ Ros Blackburn & Sigourney Weaver Interview: https://uniquelyhuman.com/2021/04/23/logically-illogical-an-interview-with-ros-blackburn-with-special-guest-sigourney-weaver/ Takeaways Dr. Barry Prizant brings decades of expertise in speech-language pathology, psycholinguistics, and autism advocacy — grounded in human connection, not behavior control. Uniquely Human was written to change the narrative around autism by sharing stories that center humanity, not deficits. Autistic behaviors are human responses, not symptoms to extinguish — and understanding the "why" leads to more effective and compassionate support. Emotional regulation and relationships matter more than compliance; kids cooperate when they feel safe, supported, and understood. The shift toward neurodiversity-affirming practice requires reflective practice and humility from professionals — especially when something isn't working. Evidence-based practice is broader than peer-reviewed research. It also includes family insight, lived experience, and data from everyday interactions. Parents' intuition matters, and professionals should never ask families to ignore what feels right for their child. Compliance-focused approaches often overlook emotional development, social connection, and the child's authentic voice. True support begins with trust, co-regulation, and being a calming presence when a child is overwhelmed. Listening to autistic voices is essential for shaping ethical and effective educational practices. Meaningful progress happens through everyday activities, strengths, and interests, not isolated drills. The field is moving toward relationship-based, developmental models (like SCERTS)—and that gives real hope for the future. You may also be interested in these supports Visual Support Starter Set Visual Supports Facebook Group Autism Little Learners on Instagram Autism Little Learners on Facebook