12. Intuition Is Experience Speaking — with Gary Klein

In this episode of The Intuitive Leader, I am honored to speak with Gary Klein, one of the most influential thinkers in the world on intuition, expertise, and real-world decision-making.

Gary is a cognitive psychologist and a pioneer of Naturalistic Decision Making, studying how people actually make decisions in messy, uncertain, high-stakes environments. His Recognition-Primed Decision model has fundamentally changed how the US Army and Marines train leaders to decide under pressure, and his work has shaped fields ranging from the military to executive leadership.

We also talk about his long and respectful disagreement with his good friend and Nobel Prize winner Daniel Kahneman, which evolved into a five-year adversarial collaboration and resulted in their joint publication Failure to Disagree, exploring when intuitive expertise can, and cannot, be trusted.

Gary never set out to study intuition, but to understand rapid decision-making. When a senior firefighter once told him, “I’ve never made a decision in my life,” it revealed that experts do not experience decision-making the way textbooks describe it. That moment marked an unexpected turning point in Gary’s research.

Gary is a natural storyteller, and it is both a pleasure and enlightening to listen to him. Join in!

Links to Gary and his company Shadowbox

Shadow Box: https://www.shadowboxtraining.com/our-team/

Gary Klein - Seeing what others don’t: https://www.gary-klein.com/

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