12 - Abe McCann

Hey everyone, this episode contains discussions of suicide bombings and things like that. If hearing stories about that isn't for you, go ahead and skip this one.

Today I talk to Abe McCann, a former combat engineer. He discusses how the US Army started to develop standard operating procedures, or SOPs, to fight IEDs, largely based on the work that Abe and his team did. Also, he gets deep into the profound dehumanizing aspects of war.

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