#102 - The mean people are listening

Ben and co-host Chris Schryer welcome Obie Simmonds and Ania Donich of the Canadian Brewing Awards to talk about the beer awards landscape, being a "a non-beer guy" in the beer industry, trying to make craaft beer relevant to Joe Schmo, and leveraging influencers; plus Obie kind of sort gives us a sneak peek at "The Best Beer Project" and his plans ofr taking on Untappd.